Bill Clinton's old pardons roil 2008 campaign
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By Tony Czuczka Jul 5, 2007, 19:40 GMT
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All I know is that in 18 months we'll have a new administration in place to start the clean up process. It will take decades to repair what this bunch of idiots messed up, but what can you say-somebody voted them in.
It is entirely disrespectful, uncalled for, tacky, below the belt and unforgiveable of Tony Snow & other republicans to refer to PRESIDENT CLINTON as the 'guy who used to be govenor of Arkansas'. He was PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA for TWO TERMS and is considered highly as a GLOBAL STATESMAN. Did Democrats refer to former President Reagan as 'that 'B' rated jelly bean eating actor from California'? I do not like President Bush but I refer to him as President. This is the PROPER AND RESPECTFUL way to refer to a SITTING or FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE FREE WORLD.
Tony Snow is a little bitty man - something he confirms himself almost daily. Maybe I'll start referring to him as Snow Blow. How would he like that? Maybe I'll take the 'w' off my keyboard and call BUSH 'dubya'.
I am sick and tired of the Republican Party trashing a former PRESIDENT. I am sick and tired of the lack of proper etiquite & conduct used by people in politics. Use your manners, Snow Blow - your mouth is conduct unbecoming.
For all the DEMBHOLE DOOFUSES out there(operant/relevant portions of words ^SSHOLES+DUMB-DEMOCRATS=DEMBHOLES) let us remember that one MARK RICH was represented by his attorney LEWIS 'SCOOTER' LIBBY then convicted by prosecutor PATTY FITZGERALD - AND THEN PARDONED BY PRESIDENT D^CKHEAD CLINTON!!! Whereupon RICH fled to EUROPE and his wife 'contributed' monies to the CLINTONS!!! Was it 'revenge' thay caused FITZGERALD to 'go after' LIBBY even after AFTER he knew it was RICHARD ARMITAGE at STATE DEPT. who mentioned PLAME's name to NOVAK and set-off this kerfuffle - who knows??? One thing for sure VALERIE PLAME and her hubbie JOE WILSON weren't covert when they listed themselves in WHO'S WHO '...as the former ambassador and his C.I.A. wife'!!!
Maybe you're just upset because you can't handle hearing the truth.
Clinton was an adulterer, who committed perjury, sold secrets to China for political contributions, pardoned his half brother of cocaine conspiracy charges, pardoned Marc Rich, who fled the US after being indicted for tax evasion, and pardoned a 30 year old cocaine cartel boss whose parents gave to the Clinton library.
I understand that some people feel there is some corruption in politics and I’m sure there is, but please don’t think they started with President Bush, there was far more corruption having to do with Bill and Hillary Clinton than any other president in office.
Adulterer
Committed perjury
TravelGate
The list could go on and on…
You want a fresh start in politics, maybe that’s exactly what we need but I’m sure that it won’t happen with another Clinton in office.
Clinton was an adulterer, who committed perjury, sold secrets to China for political contributions, pardoned his half brother of cocaine conspiracy charges, pardoned Marc Rich, who fled the US after being indicted for tax evasion, and pardoned a 30 year old cocaine cartel boss whose parents gave to the Clinton library.
I understand that some people feel there is some corruption in politics and I’m sure there is, but please don’t think they started with President Bush, there was far more corruption having to do with Bill and Hillary Clinton than any other president in office.
Adulterer
Committed perjury
TravelGate
The list could go on and on…
Oh, and Bill & Hitlery killed Vince Foster right in the west wing, and had his body dumped in the park.
Murderers.
You want a fresh start in politics, maybe that’s exactly what we need but I’m sure that it won’t happen with another Clinton in office.
Both Dems and Reps indulge in these dirty tricks, and I doubt if either of them can claim the moral high ground here. Sure, if someone wanted to split hairs, s/he could come up with differences between Clinton pardon and Bush pardon, but the fact remains that both of them are/were beholden to corporate money and both know very well which side their bread is buttered on, and who paid for that butter. ;)
Vote for third party candidates next time who are not beholden to corporate money.
Peace.
As for ^ickhead clinton, him and his ^lowjob whore should get out of this great country. We don't deserve to live among trash like them. He was never a President and to my dying day I will diss that SOB every chance I can. GOD only help this country if all the stupid people vote for his ^hore wife. Just a reminder folks, it wasn't long ago that Monica was crawling around the White House floor putting everything she could get her hands on in her mouth!! Nice man, that clinton guy!!
The vitriol in these comments takes me back to the 'bad old days' when Bill Clinton was President and every able-bodied Republican not only hated him . . . but they also hated his wife, his politics, his administration and, of course, his success.
This deep-seated hatred is probably why Hillary, in the end, won's stand a chance of winning the general election.
Move on, America! There are other candidates to choose from. Let's stop the car, open the door and leave both sets of these idiots in the dirt by the side of the road and get-the-hell on with the life of our nation.
What all of you miss as you're firing shots at each other, is that they are all liars, who will say whatever they think will play to the audience they want pander to.........they all cheat, shade the truth, exaggerate and work hard at not doing the work of the American people. But no one wants to hear that do you? All of you are either one one side or the other. Where, in our Constituition does it say there are only to be two political parties? No where, that's where. And until there is a third, viable political party that actually represents the 75% of the people who think George Bush squandered our good will after 9/11 by invading the wrong country..... a third political party who is afraid the other political party doesn't get that there are actually bad people in the world, who really do want to kill us, and that can't be cured by sitting around the campfire, holding hands, singing Kubaya and giving peace a chance.......we're screwed. You partisan political hacks should put your effort into finding us a third party or fourth party candidate who cab tell the truth, and knows how to solve the problem of Muslims who want to us.
It must really 'roil' all of you neo-cons that 6 years after he was President Bill Clinton is and has always been more popular that GWB (except of course after September 11 when anyone in that position would have been highly rated).
Even after September 11, 2001 if the current administration would have done the right thing, concentrate on Afghanistan, eliminate OSB and then put the time and effort to secrure this country from within, not attack countries for no reason, they could have been regarded as some of the best in history.
But no, this group lives on daily lies. Impeach the lot of them!
We can sling mud at both Clinton and Bush (there is plenty to sling on bothe sides) but there is only one place we should start regarding the elected or to be elected officials and that is in Ccongress. It is time for a complete overhaul, and I mean kick them all out on their duf's, in both Houses (Senate and House) Lets start with getting some sensible people running the country that CARE for the People and the Country. One thing for sure, Hillary is a dangerous person and so is Obama, just look hard at their backgrounds.
Bill more popular, of course he is, probably because every woman in America wanted a red nose ride and still dreams of it.
I'm afraid to even comment here because the Clintons might have me whacked.
Clinton's wrong doings make Bush's wrong doings proper, how exactly?
Don't just make a general statement like '... a dangerous person and so is Obama ...' without backing it up.
Show us what you got.
It really gets my goat when I hear some people say that because William Jefferson Clinton or some other jackass before him did something wrong; that it's ok for them to do it too. Two wrongs DO NOT make a right.
Thing Bush's statement on Libby showed contempt for the Rule of Law and the American people. What he really said was-fxxx you, I will do what I damned well please.
I am incensed by this outrageous and flagrant abuse of executive power!
If there was ever a cause and a time for the American people to come together as one nation and march against King George that time is now!
This trial was not a witch-hunt or a partisan political attack. The decision to pursue this case was made by a special prosecutor who is a Republican who was appointed by a Republican attorney general and the judge that presided over the trial was himself a Republican. Additionally, there was a unanimous decision by the appeals court to deny Libby's request for a stay of his sentence that included one of the most conservative appointees of President Ronald Reagan's administration.
In his book ``A Charge to Keep,'' President Bush said no verdict should be touched unless strong new evidence emerges. In Texas, he denied all but one death-sentence appeal out of 153 made.
This administration has now without question, proven that they have no respect for the rule of law. This decision is an affront to all Americans who have struggled to make this country great. Now is the time to organize a civil and peaceful protest across the entire country to show the criminals that run the White House that the American People are proud, ethical, and just and will not take any more lies, deceptions, and abuses of power.
Untill some reforms are made there will never be a system thet stands for democracy .THe whole funding of the candidates,the system of electors,the existence of only two parties ,the meddling of chuches in politics,the corrupt system of lobbies intervening for corporate bizness,the lack of focussing on content when debating political issues,falling back on mudslinging and character assasination,etc,etc.All that makes for a system that reveres democracy but does not practise it .It is enough to look at posts describing Hillary Clinton as a whore (must be the final argument ) to be convinced something is very wrong with the way discussions are conducted .
Why are there no more discussions about health care,education,the war in Iraq,the miltary industrial complex without mud slinging ?
I am afraid people using these tacts simply lack cognitive capcity to understand these issues ,yet they are willing to voice an opinion.THeir failure to understand the true nature of things is in fact a failure of the system,a failure of democracy .
I notice these malfunctions more in the arguments more in republican cenacles .Enough evidence is given by the whole Lewinsky story ,which in fact was a bubble not even meriting more attention than the casual Paris Hilton affair .Yet it was wipped up and blown out of proportion for more than a year ,a very special Kenneth Starr was even introduced by neocon troops to 'investigate ' this heinous crime ( a blowjob like tenthousands occur at this very moment ).That my friends was all that mattered in american politics for too much people .
When such trifles are becoming the issue of heated debates and paralyse a country something is teribly wrong,agreed ?
Why was never such energy put into more relevant issues ?After reading the sorry state of healthcare and the tenthousands people maimed or having their lives destroyed by it one question remains :how come all these fine gentlemen and mininsters find the private matters of a president more important ?Again,makes one wonder about the existence of democracy,doesn't it ?
in 18 months we will have voted in another ass-hole
and it then starts all over again
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