Bill Clinton's old pardons roil 2008 campaign

tonny from belgiumJul 9th, 2007 - 08:50:06

Partly an enjoyable debate .At leastn oharness has logical arguments,even if I disagree .But what to say about the phenomen SP4 ?What kind of intelligent being is so elaborate in working against his own interests .He is exactly what I had in mind when stating that neocons favorite tacts are insults and smear .Could not find anything explaing what a libnazi is ,sorry,you will have to produce some explanation for this figment of your brain ,SP4;unless somebody else knows and is willing to provide for a decent explanation .Anybody ?

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SP4; Then againJul 9th, 2007 - 18:19:06

...what is a Neocon supposed to be? We have Conservatives, but I never saw the term Neocon until Reagan was elected. Reagan was a Conservative. Neocon? Never met one! It's a press construct. It's a stereotype,liberal bigotry.

You see Libnazis are bigots. Any point of view not theirs is the result of the bad people. These could be anyone, and usually is, but they need an enemy. The three reason rule applies:

1) stupid (Bush)

2) crazy (Perot)

3) Radical (Bush, after 2004 election and we saw Kerry)

If you are an infidel to the church-of-the-divine-liberal, this is your fate. Perot couldn't be called stupid, because it got hard to explain his 3 billion dollars he made on his own. Bush, however, could be called stupid because of his halting speech. Imagine if Moses lived now...

No, Libnazis are folks like you Tonny. Pseudointellectuals masquerading as smarter than the poor infidels, your insights sharper, your intelligence keener, until someone skewers your arguments (like me) and then you retreat behind the cloak of your insults. You are like the adult, wearing the childs Halloween costume pretending to be a superhero. One good belt and you start crying.

Libnazis are like you, Tonny. Go look in the mirror.

Zig Heil

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Jack SmackJul 9th, 2007 - 23:52:35

SP4, you really need to get a life. The one you are used to is slowly fading away---goodby you neo-con life hater. Maybe the rapture will save you?

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Bill Clinton is not newsJul 10th, 2007 - 19:54:42

Except to a handful of Republicans who can't think of anything else to say.

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The above postJul 10th, 2007 - 19:57:47

Would apply to the ultra-moronic SP4

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SP4: None of That....Jul 10th, 2007 - 22:54:59

....makes me wrong.

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YEs SP4 ... it does make you wrong ....Jul 11th, 2007 - 14:45:08

When you spew mindless dribble like 'You see Libnazis are bigots' ... you are flat out wrong.

If I listed all of the incorrect statements and examples you've posted on this forum, the list would be pages upon pages long.

You inability to comprehend that you're most often completely wrong, doesn't change the fact that you are.

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tonny from belgiumJul 11th, 2007 - 16:25:30

I am very sorry SP4 but I am afraid your case is a bit too complicated for me at this moment .I will have to take a more psychological approach in understanding you .Your logics are too rudymentary .From your blind defense of every person that made a fortune in life ,be it Rupert Murdoch,Ross Perrot and a few others you seem to derive the notion that if you are rich you must be holding a particular truth .You used people's wealth a few times as the final argument to gain some points in a discussion .Yet I take it you have little fortune yourself,probably not even a job,not much social life either ?If I were to use the same logics on you that you seem to adopt on others,what exactly would you look like then ?

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SP4: This Tonny is because...Jul 11th, 2007 - 21:58:40

You are a bigot Tonny, a liberal bigot, but a bigot nonetheless. Bigotry itself is not stupidity, but the result is the same. You know nothing about me, but draw wide conclusions from zero facts, whether it be polticians, climate change, or any other subject. Your ramblings are the calling card of the libnazi bigot, cocksure he is right, passing judgement on those he's never met. (I've actually met Perot, have you? And Robert Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, etc.) It's an old story, with a predictable ending.

Tonny You are the example of the four levels of enlightenment:

1) you know nothing and you don't know you know nothing

2) you know nothing but know you know nothing

3) you know something but don't know you know something

4) you know something and you know you know something

Now myself, I could be at any one of these at any time but Tonny you are, perpetually, at number 1.

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Yes, SP4...adult swimJul 11th, 2007 - 22:00:20

Try explaining why even one of my statements is wrong, instead of bomb throwing. Since you included none, my conclusion is you have no retort.

Run, Hide

SP4

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Jack SmackJul 11th, 2007 - 22:02:37

SP4---again where are the convictions??? There are none!

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SP4: Convictions?Jul 11th, 2007 - 23:08:01

Now I'm supposed to produce convictions? Anything else???

ALright, Here they are:

Government needs to be smaller.

Government needs get out of our lives, as much as possible

Privatize government wherever possible to achieve increased tax value

Reduce government interference in private enterprise.

Reduce trade barriers for increased trade

Defend, vigorasly, the USA

How's that for a start. I'm not even concerned about which party does it, as long as one does.

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