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By Tony Czuczka Jul 5, 2007, 19:40 GMT

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ERINJul 6th, 2007 - 12:30:17

How do you think Clinton got the tag of 'Slick Willie'? From his honesty and integrity ? He made America a standing joke around the world. His attack on ANY administration after his own is the definition of hypocrisy. If Hillary thinks she can get elected by polarizing this country then she is doing everything right. Personally, I hope she gets the nomination. That makes 2008 a sure thing for the GOP.

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David from StatesvilleJul 6th, 2007 - 13:12:06

Since when did two wrongs make a right? Didn't Barbara teach her boys anything?

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SP4: Clinton...Jul 6th, 2007 - 13:56:17

...just admonished Bush for not obeying the law.

Libby and Clinton should make a movie. It could be called 'liar, Liar.'

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SP4: By the way, Tony...Jul 6th, 2007 - 14:07:49

Ken Starr was appointed by Janet 'Buck' Reno. Suck on that a while and, by all means, get back with us!

Our democracy is strong. These posts are living proof. Both parties, regardless of the drivel, have good intentions and that drives our process. The half empty glass crowd can bay all they want.

America has a vibrant, colorful political process. The people who serve, are performing the highest duty this nation offers. This body freed us from our colonial oppressors, abolished that oppressors slave trade, won two world wars, built the Panama Canal, went to the Moon, provided equal rights other nations STILL don't have, rescued millions from death, slavery and destruction, and provides security and prosperity for our allies EVERY day. Our soldiers, the most patriotic in the world, VOLUTEER repeatedly, to serve in a conflict that has an uncertain outcome. There isn't a better deal on the planet. Liberals AND Conservatives built all of this.



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WilliamJul 6th, 2007 - 14:22:25

Boy, these posts really come out when the Clintons get slimed, eh SP? Some of these are just hilarious.
Tonny, crying for the republic, like a little girl, as if he was really from Belguim. They just let these guys off the hook for everything.

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To William ...Jul 6th, 2007 - 14:27:29

re: your comment ... 'They just let these guys off the hook for everything.'

Please tell us how you support not letting Bush off the hook ....

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RailB4youJul 6th, 2007 - 14:28:45

The important thing to remember about the Clintons is that Hillary won't be elected, Bill will be reelected. Just look at the Campaign already. She is relying on him and it's not even the primary season yet. Even her most recent appearence was panned in the liberal press.

Given the party you are dealing with, if they smell loser, they will run away faster from her faster than you can say 'Whitewater'.

Someone had also better notice that Obama seems to be able to still raise money. This is an indicator that all is not determined for Hillary, like her machine would like. All he needs is a few wins in the primaries.

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Andrew ThomasJul 6th, 2007 - 15:00:52

Unfortunately, it will be another republican administration. The one election when it should be a sure thing. The democrats will be running two unelectable candidates.

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SP4: Ya think so?Jul 6th, 2007 - 15:23:05

Look at American politics:

In 1968 we got Nixon!

Then he resigned in disgrace and we got an ol peanut fahmah!

Then, we threw him out and got Reagan!

Still think the dems can't win??? The 8 ,or so, million who determine an election would disagree.

Dick Morris thinks Barack the magic negro and Hillary are going to join up. That would change everything.

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Railb4youJul 6th, 2007 - 15:41:37

Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich was interesting, to say the least.

Bear in mind that Rich was charged with manipulating oil costing between domestic and foreign sources. His shell game was to call domestic foreign and get a better spread. Needless to say, he was caught, and promptly ran to Switzerland.

Reagan, correctly, saw this market management as folly and deregulated crude oil production. This was no longer a crime, but the govt still went after him.

Clinton comes along, and Louis Libby (remember him!?), seeing justice for sale by everyone in Clinton's employ i.e. Berger, etc., seizes the opportunity. Predictably, they roll for $1 million to the DNC, and Rich is out. No Dept. of Justice review or anything.

This is the ironclad measure of the Clintons. It was predatory, it was for money, it was for all the wrong reasons. Does it haunt Hillary. Yes. That is because it should.

Is Libby a hell of a lawyer or what? Guess who was holding Rich hostage?

Fitzgerald. Remember him?

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Hello! anybody out there?Jul 6th, 2007 - 17:17:50

Look you stupid repubs you are all either not paying attention or have your head in the sand. Bush is the worst president in history. Sure Clinton committed adultry and lied about it. Who wouldn't lie about it, you are all hipocrits. Like you wouldn't lie about something like that. It was none of the peoples buisness anyway, how many other presidents have cheated on their wives? Who knows? Who cares? It's none of your damn buisness. This president, who by the way didn't even get elected in the first place, lied about WMD's and lied about a Saddam connection to 9/11, got us into a war that is unneccessary and a total money grab for him and his cronies in his administration. Look who he puts in his cabnit, people with no qualifications and who do a horrible job, 'heck of a job Brownie'. Republicans suck and are egotistical, idiots who don't care about thier fellow man and have greedy self intrest.

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RE:Hello! anybody out thereJul 6th, 2007 - 17:53:53

Yes we are present and accounted for 'dumbass'
--thats all we ever hear when a liberal is taken out to be whipped

---the same old didn't win the election--The Supreme court of the US said he did--dumbass

As for the qualifications--look at Janet BullDike Reno--the Waco killer

Or Donna Esther Shalala --health and human services--who had been a professor of politics---Real qualified for the job in healthcare

Madeleine Albright--who had really done nothing but teach college-was made Secretary Of State--out of the blue and allowed the worst case of genocide in history to happen--Rwandan Genocide was the 1994 mass extermination of hundreds of thousands of ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutu sympathizers in Rwanda and was the largest atrocity during the Rwandan Civil War. This genocide was mostly carried out by two extremist Hutu militia groups, the Interahamwe and the Impuzamugambi, during about 100 days from April 6 through mid-July 1994. At least 500,000 Tutsis and thousands of moderate Hutus died in the genocide.[1] Other estimates put the death toll between 800,000 and 1,000,000.[2][3]

Clinton went through Cabinet Secretaries like bubblegum , because of their lack of qualifications--3 in Tresury
3 in Defence
4 in Commerce
3 in energy

Need I go on??????

You really need to do some research before letting loose with the rocks--You Assclown

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SP4: It's all they haveJul 6th, 2007 - 18:22:36

The idea that Clinton can lie to a judge because it was sex, is perfectly acceptable to the Garden Variety Leibnazi.

The Libnazis never bother to address:

FBI records scandal,i.e. Vince Foster.

Sandy Berg(Lars Chinese and Russian campaign fund money.

Sandy Burglars pimping influence to AMOCO, while holding stock.

Whitewater.

Hillary's Commodity trades.

This is because they can't defend those. Then again, they seem perfectly willing to continence lying to a federal judge, when it is their guy and a crime they feel is ok. Consider applying this logic as a libnazi lawmaker. No wonder nothing gets through Congress under the democrats.

Is Bush the worst President in History? Only if you never lived under Carter. Besides, take a look at your economy: Huge job creation, Huge tax revenue, Lower taxes...

Wait until this is gone...

As for throwing rocks...sticks and stones...





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Jack SmackJul 6th, 2007 - 19:17:25

SP4---as usual using false information to try and prove your point. You are a great representative for all the neo-cons on this board and the current administration---you all are a bunch of liars!

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SP4 'it's ' all YOU have ...Jul 6th, 2007 - 19:22:15


The only defense you have for Bush is to mention Clinton (geez, you just on and on about him ... have you forgotten he ain't the prez no more? hasn't been for a very long time.)

Well, since I don't think Clinton was justified ... and I live in the present timeframe (as opposed to you constantly going on about the past) ... How are you gonna justify Bush's wrong doings TODAY? (without mentioning someone who did wrong in the past)

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The Man Named XJul 6th, 2007 - 19:31:26

I am surprised that no one has assassinated president Bush. This president has set this country back 15 years. The only thing Bush is interested in, is oil. He backs the Saudis because of oil, he attacked Iraq for oil, he is thinking about attacking Iran for oil and he hates Hugo Chavez for supplying cheaper oil to low income families in the US. Bush should be impeached and hanged for causing the deaths of 3,000 plus soldiers. Iraq didn't threaten the security of the US. Bush just wanted a reason to steal their oil.

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To X ...Jul 6th, 2007 - 20:10:35


re: your comment ... 'This president has set this country back 15 years.'

I'd say Bush has set us back more than 230 years .

He's abandoned Habeas Corpus rights ... he's violated laws requiring warrants ... he's violated Right to Due Process etc ... the list of Constitutional violations goes on and on.

And he does all of this while saying 'He's defending the USA.'

Bull! ... The truth is he's abandoned the very things that make the USA what it is ... or I should say, was.

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SP4: RebuttalJul 6th, 2007 - 21:50:32

Bush has not broken any laws.

There are no wrongdoings. If there were, he'd be impeached, like the last president, who actually DID break the law, not some mushroom high libnazi fantasy, like you wish for.

Everything in my previous post was TRUE.

Clintons did ALL those things. They are on the record. There is no debate as to their actuality.

Oil is a good thing for the President to think about, since you and I require it. What kind of car do you drive?

Bush freed 50 million people. 230 years? Another libnazi mescal fantasy.



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Jack SmackJul 6th, 2007 - 21:57:57

SP4, I would think that in order to be true they would have had to be convicted of these 'crimes'. How many convictions do you have on this 'wish list'? As usual, SP4 spreading lies to support his lying neo-con administration!

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SP4: 'Facts...Jul 6th, 2007 - 22:10:48

...are stubborn things' - George H.W.Bush

FBI records scandal - Congresional testimony - fact. The little cupcake, on national TV stated, when asked by the Congressman as to who ordered up the 800 files on Clintons enemies 'Vince Foster'. Fact? Who asked Vince to get them?

Whitewater - Smack, are you daft???

Sandy Berg(L)ar. - As written in Robert Bear's 'See no Evil' Fact? If not, Sandy could sue him and win. You seen any suits yet Smack???

By the way, O.J. was never convicted. Another court decided it was true. Which court defines your truths Smack?

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