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Ugly sentiments sting American tourists

'I'd say one in three conversations wound up the same way, basically that 'America is the devil.' So I'd ask folks to think about the Marshall Plan a bit and get back to me,' says Vaughn, 32, referring to the Allied blueprint for the reconstruction of Europe after World War II. 'In the end, though, I just had to tell people, 'I'm not having this discussion anymore.' '

But if you're heading overseas, be prepared to have it. Again and again. If the past 100 years were widely considered the American Century, this new one is fast shaping up as the Anti-American Century.

Just ask tourist Colleen Frost, 33, who hopped into a cab recently on her first day in Berlin. An English-speaking driver demanded an explanation for what he called 'America's megalomania.'

'He wanted to know what I would think of my country if my brother or boyfriend was killed in a war,' says Frost, a dental hygienist from Santa Fe. She says the ride was over before she could provide an answer for the disgruntled cabby.

How times have changed.

A mother lode of goodwill fostered in the decades after the defeat of Nazi Germany has been reduced to dust in recent years. A growing number of foreigners see some of the United States' political decisions (pulling out of the Kyoto Treaty on global emissions) and personal choices (Americans' penchant for gas-loving SUVs) as at best unilateral and at worst selfish. The confrontation over Iraq is just more fuel on a bonfire.

From Spanish plazas to Parisian metros, American tourists are being quizzed, grilled and even spat on by people who do not approve of the Bush administration's drive for a war against Saddam Hussein.

As a result, a declining number of Americans (54% today vs. 79% a year ago) believes that the USA enjoys a favorable image abroad, according to a recent Gallup poll. And a majority of Americans (64%) cite a fear of unfriendliness as the top concern of traveling abroad during wartime, according to a survey in the February issue of Conde Nast Traveler.

Anecdotal evidence from across Europe indicates those fears are not unfounded.

'I've spent 100 days a year for the past 30 years in Europe, and, generally, people always managed to differentiate a government's action from its citizens,' says Rick Steves, a Seattle-based tour operator who specializes in Europe.

'But I have never seen this level of frustration in my lifetime. They just can't understand our push for war, especially the younger generation.'

Steves says the current climate is in stark contrast to the 'breathtaking' we-are-all-Americans sentiment that gripped Europe on Sept. 11, 2001. He is not discouraging his clients from traveling abroad now, and cancellations have been few. That said, his Web site features a flurry of concerned exchanges about overseas travel. Steves urges would-be tourists to pack the right attitude.

'Being defensive does no good. You have to keep things in perspective and listen,' he says. 'At its best, travel remains a vital force in promoting understanding.'

And is it ever needed. If European criticism of the United States was previously limited to newspaper headlines and kaffeeklatsch debates, the tug of war over Iraq has unleashed a torrent of frustrated invective on the streets.

Much of such vitriol is aimed at the Bush administration. That has never been more in evidence than during the weekend of Feb. 15, when more than 6 million people in roughly 60 countries hit the streets in some of the largest anti-war protests since the Vietnam War.

But sometimes this antagonism filters down directly to the American tourist.

Laurel Scapicchio and her 13-year-old daughter were waiting for a train in the Paris metro a few weeks ago when their conversation was interrupted. Two men in their 20s overheard their American accents and shouted, 'Pigs!'

'It brought us back to reality,' says Scapicchio, 42, a freight forwarder from Saugus, Mass., who was on her first trip to the French capital. 'It was a little spooky. But we shrugged it off. It wasn't personal. It was just because we were Americans.'

European tourism officials, who are battling a 19% drop-off in U.S. travel since a record 13.1 million visited in 2000, discount such incidents as aberrations.

'I am certain that a number of American visitors will be asked about the U.S. administration's policy on Iraq. But if indeed there have been some unpleasant encounters, I strongly believe that they are few and far between,' says Patrick Goyet, vice chairman of the European Travel Commission in New York. 'Furthermore, speaking as a European and for the vast majority of my fellow Europeans, I consider any such behavior idiotic and embarrassing.'

Be ready for harsh words

Nonetheless, many Americans abroad have stories to tell. Their warning? Expect the unexpected. While living in Spain recently, Jane Kelly, 20, recalls a friend being spat on for being American.

Tips for blending in

Concerned about being a magnet for anti-Americanism during your next trip abroad? Bruce McIndoe, CEO of iJet Travel Intelligence, offers his tips for staying under the radar:

Avoid American fast-food restaurants and chains.

Keep discussions of politics to private places, not rowdy bars.

Take a rain check on wearing clothes featuring American flags or sports team logos.

Keep your passport out of sight.

Keep cameras, video equipment and maps tucked away.

Soften your speech; Americans typically overshadow their hosts in the volume department.


'In any country you're going to get people who do this,' says Kelly, who was studying at the Madrid campus of Boston's Suffolk University.

However, fellow student Kate Perlis, 20, says the atmosphere was charged. 'It seems that the only English a lot of people there know are the words, 'We hate Bush.' '

Joshua Eckblad, 28, an American high-tech manager living in Madrid, has had similar experiences. Daily he faces the comments of Spaniards who 'feel free to say anything against America, who think Bush and his people know nothing about the world.'

His sister, Vanina, 27, an architect living in Paris, has fared no better. She says that the other day a man on the street 'told me to go back to where I came from.'

Such run-ins can cause some visitors to contemplate retreat. When Linda Severson, an American who has lived in Brussels for two years, was visiting Amsterdam recently with her mother, the pair found themselves at the Hard Rock Cafe, surrounded by anti-American protesters.

'We were looking down at all the demonstrations and signs that said 'Kill Bush, not Iraqis,' and we just sat there stunned,' she says. 'We felt a little homesick.'

But other Americans abroad prefer to tack right into the storm.

Louis Nebelsick, 45, is an archaeologist from Louisville who organizes exhibits for the Dresden museum of archaeology. He says he hasn't seen this level of anti-Americanism in Germany since the days of Ronald Reagan, when in 1983 masses protested the installation of medium-range missiles in Europe.

But despite the rancor, Nebelsick proudly wears an American flag on his baseball cap. It might as well be a lightning rod in a thunderstorm.

'One guy saw that I was American and said he just had to tell me what he thought of my country,' he says. 'His opinion was that America is being run by a rabid cowboy.'

Nebelsick also carries a cigarette lighter emblazoned with an American flag. Several times of late, folks have turned down his offer of a light as soon as they caught a glimpse of the Stars and Stripes.

'The era of Americans as heroes is over,' he says.

Pleasantries also exchanged

But that isn't to say that positive connections can't be made between nationalities on a one-to-one basis. Some tourists interviewed spoke of not only pleasant exchanges but also an appreciation for those Americans who would travel overseas despite the current climate.

When Tony Vitanza, 42, of Fort Worth unleashed his Texas accent on a shopkeeper in Belgium, she immediately asked what state he was from.

'I made sure to tell her I didn't vote for Bush,' says Vitanza, a flight attendant who was careful to pluck all the pins off his jacket before heading outdoors. 'But the woman said she was interested in my accent, not my politics.'

Similarly, when Jay Rooney, 57, and Bruce Plank, 35, were in Europe a few weeks ago while on business for Armstrong Flooring, the only run-ins they had were with vendors haggling over prices at flea markets.

'We've had no problems at all,' says Rooney while touring London's famed Portobello Road market. 'Some of our hosts even seemed apologetic. I haven't felt criticism. Haven't felt rudeness, haven't felt pressure. Quite the contrary, I feel some people have gone out of their way to be nice.'

One veteran Europe-watcher thinks the average American is still very much appreciated by the average European. It's when the policies of a nation are pinned on an individual that the sniping begins.

'I've found that most Europeans are generally fond of Americans,' says Pieter Ockers, European analyst for iJet Travel Intelligence, an American company that provides travel risk management advice for corporate and leisure travelers.

'But the (European) media often stoke the fires,' he says. 'Their media portray Americans as culturally inferior, ignorant of world politics, arrogant in our interaction with the rest of the world and, worst of all, the bully of the neighborhood.'

During Vaughn's stay in England, he found himself criticized on all those levels. Like a boxer countering each blow, he shot back with the best responses he could.

Sometimes the complaints left him speechless, like the time he was told ' 'America had no culture' by a kid wearing a Kobe Bryant T-shirt and listening to rapper DMX.'

But one incident really stung.

'Man, it was bad,' says the Rat Pack-y star of Swingers. 'These girls saw us and were kind of flirting, and they kept asking us if we were American. Finally we said, 'Yes,' and they just took off.

'One girl turns and says, 'We were hoping you were Canadian.' Canadian? Since when was it cooler to be Canadian?'


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SP4: Boo Hoo, arf arfJun 5th, 2007 - 13:45:21

I've been hearing this crap since the 60's. They hold America in contempt, but still take all we provide i.e. superb trade agreements (all promoted by us)literally, their peace and security (NATO) and our shaping of the world as it exists.

Yes, people hate the doberman in the neighbors back yard, but love it when it protects them. Lok at a map of the world and imagine what it would look like if we had never had the 'American Century'. 20th century Europe was a disaster.

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williamJun 5th, 2007 - 14:21:18

So you think the american 'century' was only 60 years, followed by 47 years of decline ?

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SP4: no...Jun 6th, 2007 - 02:12:18

no...

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SP4: what???Jun 6th, 2007 - 06:55:16

I travel abroad and never hide my American citizenship. I never apologize for my country. I find the very concept repugnant. Nor would I expect anyone to apologize for theirs.

Name one nation that deserves an apology from America. Not one! Europe???

Ha! Two world wars, millions of Jews, gypsies, gays and mentally ill folks systematically liquidated by European governments (yes, you other nations helped)

I don't think so.

Japan? We settled it on the battlefield.

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williamJun 6th, 2007 - 08:06:49

So macho posturing is the answer to everything ? What a sad existence

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To SP4:Jun 6th, 2007 - 11:02:53

So, your not european? What are you, african, asian? And if the NAZIS (not the europeans) killed millions, what did the americans did to the native peoples of america, kisses.
The point here, the one you will never get it, is that, before your adorable GWB become president, only extreme-left people didn't like America (aka, the diferent administrations). I, for example, did have my disagreements with some of the Reagan Bush administrations, but in the end I wasn't against them. I only disagree with some of their ideas. The problem is that now, a big part of the american people, starting with you, think that those who don't agree with god on earth (aka GWB) are dangerous terrorists. Europe always did disagree with some of the american administration politics, but was never insulted like know, and was never ignored. We always acted together. Now is 'or you are with me, or against'. I don't accept that, and nobody here accept that, and the more you do it, the more you'll be alone.
As for insulting American tourists, I never noticed that. But it's true that some of you have a tendency to speak to loud. Even Italians and Spaniards complain.
Besides, one thing that I know we europeans don't like is you and those like you never discuss nothing, you just insult people and write here what you copy from other places. That, my 'friend', denotes ignorance. That's why the russkies call you niekulturnies. Because you are.
Cheers.

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SJun 6th, 2007 - 11:26:38

To the previous poster- Wow! I didn't realize you spoke for the Entire European Race! What a burden that must be being the mouthpiece for everyone in Europe- When did you conduct your door to door census?? It is ignorant for you to insinuate that all Europeans think alike just as all Americans think alike- I am both and frankly there are issues on both sides that I agree with and disagree with but I am not so priggish as to lump everyone together. Each person is unique and an individual with their own ideas and opinions and don't need you to be the puppetmaster for them. I love America! I love Europe! Do I think there are things that are wrong about the US and need to be changed?? Absolutely! I can be objective since I am from both places and I see the flaws in America very well unlike some that don the rose colored glasses but I also see weaknesses in Europe that ring a deja vu from times past. Show me a country without flaws or blood on their hands. I admit that some Americans can tend to be arrogant, narrow-minded and ignorant of the world around them but so can many Europeans as well for I have experienced some of their elitist attitudes as well. For those in France with the short term memory loss- ALL I can say is that if it wasn't for the Americans and the ALLIES in WWII they would all be speaking German so perhaps a little gratitude might be in order. Perhaps we all need to practice a little tolerance all the way around for each other as humans.

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SJun 6th, 2007 - 11:39:10

SP4- you are right- everyone loves to criticize and bash but are sure willing to step up and take the hand outs given. Everyone forgives and forgets the debts instilled by those the US paid to rebuild their countries, money we will never see again. I have got a real simple idea- IF people don't like our way of life, what we stand for, what we believe in- Don't partake in it- don't wear our stuff, eat our food, watch our shows, listen to our music, drive our cars etc! It is really easy- if I don't want to support something then I don't support it- I don't sit around on my backside whining about everything I hate about something just to hear my own gums flapping- I have witnessed first hand being both European and American some Europeans bashing westernism, democracy and specifically the US while wearing Nikes, Levi Jeans and drinking starbucks- news flash for em, you don't like our policies don't support it that way you won't be a hypocrite! I personally think the Poster was right when he said, the day of the American hero is over' in the minds of SOME Europeans- I think the US should pull out of everything and just let everything go and focus on the US- I think we should cut ties with most everyone and let them be, that way we can quit listening to them cry all the time and if they don't like the way the US is run, well guess what? they don't have to live with it so they can shut the orfice known as their mouth and find some other crusade to spout about

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AndrewJun 6th, 2007 - 12:04:09

S says a previous poster doesn't speak for all of Europe - then S appears to want to speak for the whole of america. Get your mind sorted out

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To: S Jun 6th, 2007 - 11:26:38Jun 6th, 2007 - 18:46:25

Where did you read I was speaking for anyone? I was giving my opinion, but that's already to much for you, isn't it? Giving an opinion, different! Gee, what a nerve?
About the french being grateful... sincerely, I'm tired of that crap! You should also be grateful to the french, or you'll be singing God Save the Queen... which is better then Hail to the chief, by the way. You call the europeans arrogant... did you stop to read your post?
so now, europeans should, until eternity, be grateful to the USA for what they did 60 years ago? Yes, we are, I mean, I am. But I'm not grateful to you and, specially, not grateful to god on earth.

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SP4: ReplyJun 7th, 2007 - 03:41:28

I'm not asking anyone to like me, no matter where they live. I'm not voting for anyone so someone I've never met might like me.

Anyone who thinks voting for a leader because someone they,ve never met will, suddenly, like them, is a moron.

If I want to know what Russians think about the United States, I'd look at the numbers of them coming here versus the number of Americans emigrating to Russia.

As we say in America 'no one builds a raft to go to Cuba'.

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To the hypocriteJun 7th, 2007 - 08:11:41

So the statment you made 'Besides, one thing that I know we europeans don't like is you' isn't speaking for everyone? You just stated 'We Europeans' meaning you are the voice for all Europeans?? Get over yourself! I am European and American and you don't have a say for me either way! I am sorry you feel that way about God- however you feel is your opinion and because of the right to free speech you can say it- The expression we agree to disagree is probably the best one for all of us- In reference to owing the French, we do recognize the French for their efforts 200 years ago in helping the US against the British but if you are comparing the two, then I would rather be singing hail to the Queen than whatever tune the Nazi's would have had us chanting.

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SJun 7th, 2007 - 08:17:21

Andrew,

I believe I used the word 'I' signifying my self and did not say 'we' as the previous poster stated when he said that 'We Europeans' implying everyone. I stated 'I' because that is how 'I' feel. I don't pretend to know how everyone else in the world feels about things because the fact of the matter is 'I' am only responsible for me. I get tired of hearing blame for everything wrong in the world blamed on America, the Jews, westernism etc etc etc the fact of the matter is the world is a friggin mess and each day we are all here is a tribute to something called 'Grace'

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To: To the hypocrite Jun 7th, 2007 - 08:11:41Jun 7th, 2007 - 09:20:18

What is nice in you, the euro-american, is that you like very much to insult everybody (in this case me) who disagrees with you! Really, very nice of you. I wonder, if this wasn't in a forum, you'll be already showing how macho you are. Do you show a Magnum 44, each time you don't like the opinions of others? Or you just bomb them?
No, my dear, saying 'we europeans don't like' is a generalization, not that I'm speaking for 400 million people. If you don't understand and don't have another argument (which it seems you don't) so, like you said, get over yourself. If you don't understand that when I speak about god on earth (with little g), I'm speaking about the commander-in-chief who receives instructions from God, then, your problem!
And so you recognize the french effort 200 years ago. Well, for what I know, and I know a lot of french, without speaking in their name, they recognize the effort americans, english AND others did to help them, against the nazis. But that doesn't mean that, every time american administrations decide to do crap allover the world, they must say 'Yes, master'. And that's what we europeans (take that however you want), don't accept. The 'new' americans, the wasps that you and the others here represent, you think the world owns you everything. I, and the other europeans, we don't own you, or the present american administration, nothing. Nobody owns you nothing. On the contrary.

As for the other S, the SP4, saying that he doesn't vote for a person worried that people on other countries like him or not, yeah, you right! But, I don't have to remind you that the person you voted for, the so called commander-in-chief who receives instructions from God, interferes in the lives of people living in other countries, so don't be surprised that people from those countries don't like you. The same way your grand-father didn't like germans. There is no difference. If you americans don't like people from other countries express opinions about what is going on in your country, what about you (and your politicians) stop telling others what to do? Would you like that your neighbor start sending smoke to your garden, poisoning your water, or telling you 'do this, or I'll put fire in your house'? I suppose not. Well, it's the same thing.

In the end, I'm not expecting none of you agree with me, the same way you shouldn't expect I agree with you. This place is not for that. I'm here to discuss opinions. The problem is that the majority of people who comes here do it just to express themselves, and blast all the others. If they are teenagers, I understand, but I don't think so. Just go try to learn what is democracy, before trying to impose it to others!
Cheers

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good griefJun 7th, 2007 - 20:13:15

' Just go try to learn what is democracy, before trying to impose it to others!'

LOL!

To my mind the word 'european' has become synonymous with hypocrite. Take a look at any of our problems that you love to ballyhoo and you can bet that you have the same problems in spades. It would appear that the only difference is that Americans don't need to continually assert themselves with sanctimonious lectures to give us an inflated sense of moral superiority.


Come to the states and you will be treated with respect and decency, if not outright hospitality. Go to europe and you will have petty people asserting themselves to make up for their own shortcomings.

And YES, we have a DEMOCRACY here.

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SJun 8th, 2007 - 07:51:10

To the hypocrite, Well you really are smart aren't you?? You just labeled me as a WASP (part of your generalization techniques) - I am half Jewish (German Jew) so I guess that would eliminate me from being considered a Wasp considering my bloodline would have landed me in the camps back in the day, but thanks for making your assumption. You are right perhaps that the Western World owes nothing to the US but certain people EXPECT something from the US. Perhaps it is some people's constant bashing and criticizing of the US, Americans that gets a little old, hearing them drone on and on. The previous poster is absolutely spot on about most tourists visiting the US being treated with dignity and respect but some Americans are mistreated because of our leadership then obviously there is a problem with differentiating. An American aquaintance (US Military) was on leave as a tourist in France and he was blatantly ignored for over an hour while trying to order food in a restaurant solely because he was American- That is the kind of crap that would have 'ME' telling the Garcon to bring a friggin menu because if it were not up to the ALLIES he would be slinging sauerkraut and speaking German- Does anyone owe anyone anything?? Well basic courtesy and respect for one!

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SeanJun 8th, 2007 - 10:49:39

Perhaps tourists to the States are treated well because they come from multi-cultural countries where it is normal to blend in with the culture and mores of the hosts and to respect their ways. Unfortunately the opposite applies when american tourists inflict their american standards on Europe

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SJun 8th, 2007 - 12:37:20

Sean,

That is a broad statement or generalization about Americans- That is about as silly as me saying because your name is Sean you must be IRA?? Everyone are individuals and yet we seem to want to lump people all in together.

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SJun 8th, 2007 - 12:41:20

Sean

I have lived both abroad in Europe and in America for my entire life, have been to 19 countries just in the last 5 years and I have yet to 'inflict' as you put it my ideals on the countries I travel to. Quite the opposite really as I tend to read up and learn as much as I can including the language of those places I have visited. Sounds really despicable of me huh? Go inflict your judgements on 'ALL' Americans elsewhere.

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