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By Pat Reber May 31, 2007, 13:26 GMT

US health officials chased TB carrier around the world


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PatMay 31st, 2007 - 17:56:43

The comments here have convinced me that it is better not to seek health care under any circumstances, because it is better not to know what you might have. Which is precisely why nobody should throw the book at this guy, think about it... an apparently healthy person has a low level tb infection and a mild cough, could go on for the rest of his life without infecting anyone with just a mildly annoying chronic health problem which is untreatable but might eventually clear up on its own. But now he is a prisoner, ostracized by society because he sought medical care and was subsequently deemed a threat to society.

Why would anyone want to go to a doctor ever again? Very rarely does someone put their own life beneath others. And the corollary to that is that society is always willing to take less of a risk than you might be willing to. He knew very well that the CDC is perfectly willing to sacrifice the well being of any individual or minority for the good of the majority and he simply acted in his best interest.

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JimMay 31st, 2007 - 18:12:07

Rich, after you've arrested Al Gore, we'll talk.

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JohnMay 31st, 2007 - 18:15:45

Take a look at the evolving language used in the feedback. Rabid attacks against the sick guy at first: First degree murder! Punish! Selfish!

Then people start to get a bit more thoughtful: How would I react under these circumstances? Do we have all the info?

What is it about these talkback forums that seems initially to attract zealots who are willing to smite down the miscreants? Lock up and throw away the key! Disbar! Sue!

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???May 31st, 2007 - 18:38:50

TB is a diease that can spread off a lampshade that was coughed on many years before.Not something that dies in a quick manner.
The old and young can catch it years after it contacts a surface.
Some strains just can't be cured at this time, and people must stay in isolation.
I can only guess the previous poster didn't know these facts.If they did they are a weiner.

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MortMay 31st, 2007 - 18:54:24

TB is a deadly illness, particulary the strain this chump has. That he not only violated a no fly order but then tried deliberately to evade the CDC - is criminal.

As for Italian medical care - it's better and cheaper than ours - so that is total rubbish about being afraid he would die outside the US; Italy is hardly the backwater of Europe culturally or medically.

He just decided his plans were more important than other people's lives - and that sort of attitude is pretty much why the rest of the world hates us.

GOOD JOB!

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JohnMay 31st, 2007 - 22:27:50

Hey, Mort. I lived in Europe for 14 years and have been hospitalized there. How much experience do you really have with Italian healthcare? I know that I wouldn't want to have to explain what's happening to me to non-English speakers who, as you have most kindly pointed out, hate us.

Also, according to the reports that I have read, the person is not being charged with any crime. Are you suggesting that a law be retroactively passed against this individual? Great, welcome to Gitmo!

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JohnJun 1st, 2007 - 00:49:13

It is clear that this person is a self centered and dangerous to himself and humanity. If he violated no laws in the U.S.A. then he was in many other jurisdictions. He should face the consequences of his actions wherever the law would mandate in each country. His choice of linguistic alibi may apply in legal systems based on English Law, such as U.S.A., but I am not aware that Italy or Greece have Laws based on English Law. First this sorry S.O.B needs to be treated. Next the mess he created needs the same treatment. Then if and when he recovers extradite the sorry S.O.B. to where ever he violated the law or can face litigation. Furthermore his insistence upon returning to the U.S.A. is example narssisstic American stupidity. The U.S.A. has the worse and the most expensive health care in the developed world. The care he would have recieved in Europe quite frankly may have been superior and less costly. The sollution is to Sociallize medicine in the U.S.A. and for congress to vest the Surgeon General and Public health department the same power the I.R.S. and the U.S. Treasury have.

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What a great married life he'll haveJun 1st, 2007 - 05:01:22

His dad works for the CDC in infectious disease control with a particular focus on TB. Not only did this a-hole put all his fellow travelers -- and his wife -- at risk of a near-certainly fatal disease just so he didn't have to change your plans, but just imagine the good times at Thanksgiving, religious holidays etc... with the in-laws. I bet his wife really appreciates being stuck between this prick and her father.

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CorrectionJun 1st, 2007 - 05:03:00

Her dad, not his dad.

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Oh and by the way PatJun 1st, 2007 - 05:08:33

This is for the comment from 'PatMay 31st, 2007 - 17:56:43' above.

PatMay, I'm sure anyone would agree that the decision to do the right thing in this situation wouldn't be easy. No one wants to change/cancel a wedding or honeymoon, and facing the prospect of enforced medical care isn't so cool either.

But you can't be freaking serious when you posit that his interests should trump the scientific facts about this particular drug-resistant strain of TB.

I'm sure you're not really one, but your comment above seems like one hell of an impression of a moron.

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SP4: Just another classic case...Jun 1st, 2007 - 19:22:20

...of the USA doing the hard work of international protection. What were these other nations thinking?

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SP4: another thing...Jun 4th, 2007 - 22:17:01

...isn't this just a stellar example of Tonny from Belgium's vaunted European Health Care system? here is a disease that can be controlled, that threatens thousands of folks and they can't so much as contain him, in...how many nations he went to????

Socialists shouldn't run medicine: they kill too many folks.

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