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Dec 2, 2008, 18:43 GMT

Ahmadinejad: Mumbai attacks staged by outsiders


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SP4: well...Dec 3rd, 2008 - 01:12:01

...he IS an expert ont he subject!

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ChevyDec 3rd, 2008 - 02:04:56

People in the region would never do such a thing! That's a real hoot.
Yes, who could imagine a bunch of ragheads picking up AKs and spraying civilians? It positively reeks of Americanism.
So here's what we've got, to judge from these boards:
1. muslims are writing to say that, while it was obviously muslims from the region, it wasn't their fault; see, these guys with the AKs were the victims of anti-islamic discrimination. I've yet to read a post by a muslim around here who flat-out says that what happened in mumbai was wrong, without any qualification or attempt to justify it.
2. progressives are writing to say that the guys carrying AKs and shooting business travelers were victims of economic inequality, and appear far more focused on that fact, and trying to justify this, than they are in denouncing it.
3. ahmedinejad gets out in front of all the conspiracy theorists and claims it wasn't done by muslims at all...a 'big lie' on the order of hitler claiming that germany was attacked by poland. This helps justify to the progressives, who disagree with preemtive war when practiced by the US, who hate nuclear weapons when they're held by the US or Israel, why Iran should be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons and threaten its neighbors with them.

Now: WHERE ARE THE SANE PEOPLE? Who is left? The christian fundies at least get it right that this was done by muslims from the region who were responsible for their own actions; but their sanity stops there.
WHERE ARE THE SANE PEOPLE WHO CAN SAY, 'THIS IS WRONG,' WITHOUT ANY FURTHER QUALIFICATION, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION? Have people just gotten so stupid now, that they can't see what's right in front of them?

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SP4: Well Chevy, bend over and spread emDec 3rd, 2008 - 02:42:16

...this is the result of letting this go on for decades. We now have 'governments' or at least their representatives, standing in for terrorists and rationalizing their behavior, on top of a press who, for whatever reason, becomes Sigmond f--king freud, everytime anything like this happens, and presents themselves as experts on folks they've never met, or can even confirm as having done the deed. That is one of the cornerstones of terror: you're never sure of who is really attacking you.

It is, Chevy, relativism at its worst. The world's leaders are either politically or philosophically, incapable of determining right from wrong. The bad part: we have a President in America now, who will try to assuage these people who wish for you to live in a perpetual state of fear. We will pay a high price for this. The president who, unequivocally, stood against these criminals is leaving, very soon.

Guess who's ass HE'S going to moon us with?

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ChevyDec 3rd, 2008 - 04:52:35

Yeah, well, not for nothing but Bush didn't exactly fix any problems. We got stung, and he swung for the beehive with a baseball bat, is basically what happened. And the bat was too small to demolish the thing, and too big to be precise or go unnoticed. The man's no Winston Churchill, that much is obvious.
Remember, academia was against fighting the Germans, too. That mix of cowardice, sycophantic dictator-worship, self-loathing and suicidal nihilism is nothing new...and it isn't liberalism, either. FDR was a liberal. And in his day, what we now call the progressives were rallying not for the Czechs or the Poles, but for the Nazis. The fact that they switched over to apologizing for Stalin a decade later doesn't make them genuine liberals, or even genuine socialists; it only proves that they're a wretched species enslaved by groupthink and possessed of only one prerogative: To whitewash anything in order to excuse the mania of their darlings -- from hitler to chavez to ahmedinejad -- who in the name of 'socialism' have consistently turned out to be reactionary, tyrannical and murderous thugs.
Where's our Churchill, or our FDR? Is there anyone thinking straight anymore? At the present rate, it won't be long before the evangelical loonies and the towelheads blow us all to kingdom come; it's enough to make you miss the cold war, ain't it?

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Be Truthful to UsDec 3rd, 2008 - 09:05:16

I'd like to know how Tehran is going to 'cooperate' in fighting those evil acts. The best cure is prevention, is Tehran going to help prevent all forms of terrorism? Well, make my day.

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SubutaiDec 3rd, 2008 - 19:12:05

No one should be surprised if outside elements were complicit in these acts.
The president of Iran may have been using a rather broad brush but the possibility exists that there are many dirty hands in this affair and maybe ones that we would not expect.

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ChevyDec 4th, 2008 - 02:54:51

Yeah, Iran itself was probably involved.

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SJDec 28th, 2008 - 19:49:28

Although we only know what we see and hear from the media, from what we know it was a most heinous attack on the innocent civilian populous in Mumbai!

Whether it was staged is beyond anything that can be proven but i've heard of a BBC report has spoken of something of that nature-further probing is required on such a thing.

I am a Muslim and do believe that such people (if they are Muslim) are out of the fold of Islam and will suffer a great torment in hell.

But to be honest, the chance of the events being staged cannot be discounted. Check out youtube and google a few relevant things and check out whatever you can find. Draw your opinions on what you believe to be the truth.

Don't believe everything that you are told however sad a situation has occurred!!

The evil people whoever was involved need to pay for their actions.

SJ

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StagedByIranJan 15th, 2009 - 21:17:46

The outside country almajerkarsk is talking about is Iran. They can't keep from meddeling in everyone elses business.

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