Premier says Iraq can look after own security (Roundup)
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The war has produced a place that now has a chance of becoming a real nation-state. Hopefully, they can now start the building process. The real challenge is in the small communities, bringing them some kind of prosperity. This has to be exceedingly difficult. The national governement is far from finished in forming and they need to finish the job. This is a lot of hard work ahead.
Did maliki say to merkel:
'thanks for nothing...'
The war has produced a place that now has a chance of becoming a real nation-state. Hopefully, they can now start the building process.
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'Now' is a word that I would strenuously disagree with. Al-Maliki was supposed to clean up corruption, but has not. The government is all make-work patronage, and payoffs up the chain to get anything done.
Iraq has a severe shortage of technicians - the Sunni were handling that aspect, and those are now the refugees in Jordan. It's essential to get them to come home ... but the places where the Sunni once lived are Shia-occupied, or destroyed.
Aside from the oil as an allure, you can be sure that the contractors were lined up for this war from the get-go; and they expect to make a living off it well into the future; as do makers of spare parts for worn-out weapons and vehicles. We have no means of getting that equipment out of Iraq, which has been flooding there for years. We don't want it to end up in the hands of insurgents. Think about the hundreds of HumVees that a single brigade has, and the need to transport them to a ship to get them back home, and you see the problem. We've probably stripped the Guard armories of gear as well that needs replacement.
This war has been one giant feeding trough for the oil interests and the contractors, and Cheney is neck-deep in collusion with both interests. Bush, who claimed to be against nation-building, got suckered into this, and is now brainwashed to think it's about 'terrorism'; when al Qaeda did not even EXIST in Iraq prior to Saddam's ouster (more Cheney bullcrap), and the problem is now in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The irony is watching McCain photo-op with Bush Sr., who deliverately left Saddam in power in 1991 to avoid the current situation.
Couldn't agree with the last poster more. He hit the nail on the head!
...after 8 years of dems crying about getting rid of Saddam. How many clips do you have to see from dem libs wringing their hands in the 1990's over Saddam? It took another Bush to have the gonads to deal with it.
This is the feed we've gotten from the dem libs and their propaganda arm for the last 7 years:
Dumb ol GW managed to fool them all with WMD talk, and thay all doo-dee-doo'ed into a vote on this. Hard to believe he could fool them so easy, eh?
Cheney and Bush were all oil initerests, neither holding stock like Sandy Berg(l)ar but guilty by association. Granted, they do not show any real wealth from any of this, but that's beside the point, when you are a propagandist
USA went for the oil, as if we were not getting oil already. Honestly, this is the one that really makes me laugh.
No one on the left, least of all the drive-by media, wants to admit they got ol GW to do what they really wanted him to do and then pillory him for it to win the next election.
Bush Sr. did exactly what he should have done, with the facts at his disposal.
Bush Jr. did the same.
No one is buying your assessment anymore.
If there ever was a setup to profit from, Iraq was it.
Oil prices were low; and causing a commotion in the Mideast fixed that.
The Defense Industry was looking for a war, and they got it. Same with the contractors, including Cheney's Halliburton. We never did get the minutes of Cheney's energy meetings - and 10 points for the new President if we can get those made public.
We left Saddam in power SPECIFICALLY to keep Iran from getting to the position they're in now. Bush promised support to the Shia in 1991, and pulled our troops out - creating the misery they've been in from Saddam's trying to starve them out.
SP4 - stop masturbating, and start thinking - assume that grey stuff in your head is not the same crap that you keep spewing. Bush seems to be your idea of a failure making good, and I can understand how you'd idolize that. Some people live through others, and you sure did pick a shitty role model.
A-holes in love. Who's the one in the back?
'This is a wish list, at this point'
I wish you would shut your pie hole.
'The war has produced a place that now has a chance of becoming a real nation-state. Hopefully, they can now start the building process. '
Something that you shrilly swore would never happen.
'now' is a word that I would strenuously disagree with.'
'Oil prices were low; and causing a commotion in the Mideast fixed that.'
Stupidest comment ever. So we went to war in Iraq to INCREASE oil prices? You spent most of last year stating that we went to war to steal their oil.. You moron.
'The Defense Industry was looking for a war, and they got it.'
The defense industry was doing just fine, indeed, outside of a few specific contractors it has been a wash.
'Same with the contractors, including Cheney's Halliburton. '
It always goes back to Halliburton with the paranoid, delusional, undeveloped mind leftists. Cheney wasn't running Halliburton during the gulf war and had divested before it all started you stupid islamist monkey.
'We never did get the minutes of Cheney's energy meetings'
Gassy knoll, grassy knoll, fire doesn't melt steel, I want to believe!!!!
Seriously, you are a joke. A bad joke. You have been doing this long enough now to have been proven WRONG on every last stupid, hysterical, nonsensical prediction you have made here. You are the opposite of correct. Willfully stupid.
Face it you chimp, the terrorists that you were rooting for in Iraq have been defeated by the country that you have been wishing to go down the toilet so you could vent your clinical paranoia about it's president. You bet on bin laden and you lost, you parasite.
Give those of us with a brain a break, and go quietly.
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al-Maliki is making his sales pitch for Iraq as a stable place to do business (prematurely), which is in line with his desire to see the U.S. (visible) presence gone. The Iraqis are tired of war, and al-Maliki is promising them something approaching 'normalcy'.
Other nations would first need to feel secure in opening embassies, and that has not yet happened. The neighboring Sunni states are still cautious of Iran's influence, even political.
The best thing that could happen to Iraq is economic growth; including jobs for the Sunni, who have not gained from the de-Baathification reversal - right now, it's a piece of paper. Oil revenues need to get sorted out; as that's where Iraq would get the funds to rebuild infrastructure.
If people had jobs, they'd be too occupied for sectarian conflicts. As Petraeus has stated many times, their problem is POLITICAL, not MILITARY. The Sunni, thanks to getting paid by the U.S., have squeezed al Qaeda out from the cities into the countryside, which gives them less overall opportunity for large-scale attacks - but they've simply moved operations to Afghanistan.
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