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Israel 'trained for air attack on Iranian nuclear facility' (2nd Roundup)

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Jun 20, 2008, 19:47 GMT


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Nite OwlJun 20th, 2008 - 21:53:33

Will someone please nuke Israel before they start World War 3.

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Iran's n-facilities must (and will) be destroyedJun 20th, 2008 - 23:46:15

The falsely pious clerics in Tehran can rattle sabres until the cows come home and it won't make a bit of difference.

Israel is fully justified in taking the most aggressive course possible in this matter. May God speed them and give them every success.

Imagine a world where said jackal clerics of Tehran have all been taken away and hanged by their necks until they are dead.

Yes, yes, yes.

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ibnu batulahJun 21st, 2008 - 00:50:46

''It is a race against time,' Barak told the Paris daily in remarks translated into French. 'The Iranians are determined to deceive the entire world,' he said, adding that first all diplomatic options should be exhausted.'

Berak should know, after all, with the backing of the West and Americans, the Jews deceived the entire world in their claim upon the so-called 'promise land'.

The land was promised to the Children of Israel, not the Jews.

The Jews were driven from Palestine by the Romans thousands of years ago by the decree of God.

And by the decree of God, they and their supporters will be destroyed.

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ibnu batulahJun 21st, 2008 - 01:26:09

The Jews are not the Children of Israel.

God gave His promise of the land to the 12 Children of Israel (Jacob) upon certain conditions.

They failed and God send the Babylonians and Romans to drive them out of the land, to wander upon the face of the earth.

The Children of Israel are the descendants of Jacob and Jacob is the son of Isaac, a son of Abraham through Sarah.

Abraham has another son, Ismael, through Hagar. Ismael is the eldest son of Abraham.

A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother.
Therefore a Jew could not claim to be the descendants of the Children of Israel.
Their claim upon the 'promise land' is null and void.

The science of biological inheritance through the use of dna should be used to protect the rights of the Palestinians against the claim of the Jews.

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guadalcanal diaryJun 21st, 2008 - 01:26:49

Iran will get bombed. The downside will be gas at 8-10 bucks a gallon. We should have whacked these guys in 1979-80, before they got this powerful. God speed to the Israeli pilots.

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ibnu batulahJun 21st, 2008 - 02:34:03

This time around, it will be different.

The difference?
The Jews were beaten by Hizbullah.
The Jews were beaten by Hamas
The Jews will be beaten by the Iranians.

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ibnu batulahJun 21st, 2008 - 02:37:04

This time around, it will be different.

The difference?
The Jews were beaten by Hizbullah.
The Jews were beaten by Hamas
The Iranians will beat the Jews.
The illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine will end.

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NoharnessJun 21st, 2008 - 02:38:20

RE:'Iran will get bombed. The downside will be gas at 8-10 bucks a gallon. We should have whacked these guys in 1979-80, before they got this powerful. God speed to the Israeli pilots.'

Gasoline will cost somewhere around $12.00/gallon and diesel will cost around $16.00/gallon. This assumes that it all blows over in a couple of weeks. It won't. The Russians may well decide to take a hand in this. It is NOT going to be pretty.

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Threaten Not, or...Jun 21st, 2008 - 09:44:06

What will be will be. When you threaten to wipe-out an entire people, you open yourselves up to devastating consequences and that's no joke. When you refuse to seek peace, you get war. It's just a matter of time. Call the Jews what you will, but never doubt there resolve.

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Mustafa KrappJun 21st, 2008 - 16:34:54

I have little time for the Jews or Israel. It is time to stop the Iranians who are just a load of Islamic nutters. Iran will definetly be nuked and could be the largest car park in the Middle East. I have read that MacDonalds and Walmart have already ordered building plots.

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NoharnessJun 21st, 2008 - 16:42:27

And which way will the wind be blowing when we start dropping nukes? We have our own troops on either side of Iran. Who will bail the Israelis out on the ground? Hizbollah has been shaping the battlefield to their advantage for years now. Are we ready for a ground war with the Russians over Iran? We had better be.

Is this stupid? Oh, yeah.

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benjamin sorowskiJun 21st, 2008 - 16:50:31

I believe there is little doubt in the minds of most rational people that if 'push came to shove' the Israelis would likely decimate the Iranians. It's simply a matter of a near first world technological and military giant against a third world nation that has little more than an outdated soviet arsenal complemented by some recently developed Iranian propulsion technology (guided and unguided solid fuel rockets).

We should focus though, not on who would 'win' such a conflict, but on avoiding the conflict in the first place. Afterall, Israel's destruction of Iranian infrastructure and killing of Iranian people will only harden the Resolve of the Iranians (and there semi-formidable allies) against the Western World.

Also - There seems to be a lot of anti-Iranian smoke in the air that is based more in a hatred for the Iranians than in their policies. Given Iran's relatively isolated position over the last thirty or so years, how can people hat them without really knowing them. We need to give the IRanians a chance to express themselevs and come into themselves. There is nothing wrong with Iran wanting to be a player in the Internatioanl Arena - they have every right to, and the first world should encourage and support their attempts to come to prominence, rather thant try to 'keep them down'

Iran though, has an obligation to provide the world with indesputable guarantees that Iran's rise in political prominence does not pose a threat to either its immediate neighbors or the greater global community. Its a hard task, but it can be equated to a 16 year old getting his driver's license. We want the kid to drive and get a job and be a prodcutive member of society - but first we need some guarantees that he's not going kill people with his car.

If Israel chooses war, we will be set back 50 years. The U.S. has a role to play here, but so do Iran's mid-east neighbors. Both sides need to exercise their dwindling influence on the aggressive states of Israel and Iran.

Thanks for reading my opinion - I've enjoyed reading all of yours.

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SP4: God, I love the Jews...Jun 21st, 2008 - 16:54:11

...you always know exactly where they stand...

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johnJun 21st, 2008 - 16:54:44

the usual us/jew Pro-pa-gan-da.

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'What Utter Hypocrisy'...Jun 21st, 2008 - 17:12:22

Negev Nuclear Research Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Coordinates: 31.0026° N 35.1484° E

Institute 2, Israel Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC), Dimona, photographed by Mordechai VanunuThe Negev Nuclear Research Center is an Israeli nuclear installation located in the Negev desert, about ten kilometers to the south of the city of Dimona.

Its construction commenced in 1958, with French assistance according to the secret Protocol of Sèvres agreements. The complex was constructed in secret, and outside the International Atomic Energy Agency inspection regime. To maintain secrecy, French customs officials were told that the largest of the reactor components, such as the reactor tank, were part of a desalination plant bound for Latin America. [1] The purpose of Dimona is widely assumed to be the manufacturing of nuclear weapons, and the majority of defense experts have concluded that it does in fact do that. However, the Israeli government refuses to confirm or deny this publicly, as part of a policy of deliberate ambiguity.

The Dimona reactor went on-line some time between 1962 and 1964, and with the plutonium produced there, perhaps together with enriched uranium (see Plumbat Operation), the Israel Defence Forces most probably had their first nuclear weapons ready before the Six-Day War.

When the United States intelligence community discovered the purpose of Dimona in the early 1960s, it demanded that Israel agree to international inspections. Israel agreed, but on a condition that US, rather than International Atomic Energy Agency, inspectors were used, and that Israel would receive advance notice of all inspections.

Some claim that because Israel knew the schedule of the inspectors' visits, it was able to hide the alleged purpose of the site (manufacturing of nuclear weapons) from the inspectors, by installing temporary false walls and other devices before each inspection. The inspectors eventually informed the U.S. government that their inspections were useless, due to Israeli restrictions on what areas of the facility they could inspect. By 1969 the U.S. believed that Israel might have a nuclear weapon[and terminated inspections that year.


Vanunu's photograph of a Negev Nuclear Research Center glove box containing nuclear materials in a model bomb assembly, one of about 60 photographs he later gave to the British press.The Dimona reactor was overflown by unidentified jet aircraft in the days before the Six Day War in 1967 which increased tensions and may have helped spur on the conflict. Recent documentation released by Russia suggests the jets may have in fact been Soviet in origin, and not Arab as previously thought ].

In 1986, Mordechai Vanunu, a former technician at Dimona, revealed to the media some evidence of Israel's nuclear program. Israeli agents abducted him from Italy and transported him to Israel. An Israeli court then tried him in secret on charges of treason and espionage, and sentenced him to eighteen years imprisonment. At the time of Vanunu's arrest, The Times reported that Israel had material for approximately 20 hydrogen bombs and 200 fission bombs. In the spring of 2004, Vanunu was released from prison, and placed under several restrictions (such as the denial of a passport and restrictions on communications with the press). He was rearrested and charged in 2005 for violations of the terms of his release.

Dimona's reactor was defended by batteries of Patriot missiles in anticipation of strikes from Iraq in 2002 to 2003.

Recently safety concerns about this 40-year-old reactor have been reported. In 2004 as a preventive measure Israeli authorities distributed iodine anti-radiation tablets to thousands of residents living nearby.

In 2006 a group of local residents was formed due to concerns regarding health and safety from living near the reactor.


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Hypocrisy and MoralityJun 21st, 2008 - 17:23:36

Hypocrisy has been described, alongside lack of sincerity, as a characteristic which attracts particular opprobrium in the modern age.Many belief systems condemn behaviours related to hypocrisy. In some translations of the Book of Job, the Hebrew word chaneph is rendered as 'hypocrite,' though it usually means 'godless' or 'profane.' In the Christian Bible, Jesus condemns the scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites in the passage known as the Woes of the Pharisees. In the Buddhist text Dhammapada, Gautama Buddha condemns a man who takes the appearance of an ascetic but is full of passions within. In Islam, the Qur'an rails against the munafiq - those who claim to be believers and peacemakers but are not.

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CONPLAN 8022-02Jun 21st, 2008 - 18:20:00

According to the Washington Post, the United States Strategic Command contingency plan for dealing with 'imminent' threats from countries such as North Korea or Iran is formally known as CONPLAN 8022-02. The plan was reportedly completed in November 2003, resulting in a preemptive and offensive strike capability. The main plan involves the preemptive use of tactical nuclear strikes (mini-nukes) on deep-ground rocket/bomb installations, computer viruses, and radar disruption technology.

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The real Rouge nationJun 21st, 2008 - 19:20:44

Truth is, israel is a rouge nation with 150 nukes and a long and disturbing history of being a sadistic and oppressive neighbor. Here is where world destabilization rests and here also lies the reason for the 9/11 attack.
Without doubt this country under zionism is presently and has been for many years the most dangerous obstacle to world peace.

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ReJun 21st, 2008 - 19:33:13

Rouge nation
interesting comment.I might not agree but yes, food for thought.

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