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May 23, 2008, 16:30 GMT
US political author Norman Finkelstein denied entry to Israel
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Dhalgren: Israel is still a democracy. The people of Israel collectively decide who runs Israel. That's called a democracy. Once again you anti-israel scumbags say things that simply aren't true, which tells everyone a lot about the validity of your hate.
One may ask why the U.S. government offers unlimited support to a country that persistently and routinely violates principles that Americans hold sacred. The cancer cell’s strategy seems to be to make life so unlivable for Palestinians that those with options will leave, and those without options are controlled by the zionist state. Is this a strategy that Americans can support? Cancer cell’s supporters excuse zionist’s appalling violations of international law and human rights by insisting that it is a democracy and thus shares a lot with the United States. But that is not true. The cancer cell distinguishes between citizenship rights, such as the right to vote, which is available to non-Jewish citizens of the state, and nationality rights, which are reserved for Jews. This is not a feature of democracy as we know it. Several laws have been enacted in cancer cell whose intention is clearly to maintain zionists numerical superiority and to reinforce the Jewish character of the state, all of which belie the claim that zionist’s state is a democracy. Adalah, the Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in zionist’s state, has identified more than 20 laws in cancer cell that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of zionist’s state by working the Jewish character of the state into the text of the law. The cancer cell “Israel” defines “public good” in ethno-religious terms; lands expropriated from Palestinians for the “public good” benefit Jewish citizens only. The 20 percent of the population that is Muslim and Christian are regarded as a demographic threat. Obsession over the ethnic and religious composition of a country is also not a typical characteristic of democratic societies.
Don't mind me, I'm just a stupid, anti-Israel nutjob who copies and pastes massive amounts of revisionist text.
As a radical, Israel-hating idiot, naturally I am a big fan of norm finkelstein.
Israel and Zionism are the greatest threats against Jewish people since the Nazis.
Zionism turns Judaism into a 'two-tier' religion. All religions have at their base the golden rule, treat others as yourself. The Torah and the Koran even mae references to tolerance for other religions (as opposed to the Bible).
Israel is the literal interpretation of Zionism and offers a 'two-tier' justice system.
Once the door of racial inequlaity is opened, just a crack, the fundamentalists get ready to drive trucks through. It can only lead to eventual extremists taking over and taking the current 'soft' ethnic cleansing and cranking it up to a level the rest of the world can't ignore.
Thats when the Jewish people in the rest of the world will frantically try to explain that there is a difference between Israelis and Jews, which is the opposite message that Israel has programmed into people over the past 20 years. Good luck with that..
AS a survivor of 3 1/2 concentration camp Mr. Finkelstein is a disgrace to all survivors and particularly to me who lost my entire family
Shame on him
'Iranian' Israel is not our beef with you, its your governments acts of war against us, its your dancing chimp president and his continuing spewing of hate and death. Its your servile support of a corrupt and hatefilled gov that dosnt even deliver its promises to you. Where is the economic, jobs, peace, the gov promised you? Its when you dance to the words of these chimps, like the Nazi's, like the pallies on 911, like the arab world. War is inevitable.
'tiny little israel, (withn 300 nukes and Uncle Sam's chequebook).
You are doomed, you fascist, racist smegma.
The letter of Yusef, chief of the Jews of Constantinople that laid out a plan of infiltration and subversion of Christian Spain
Asked by the Jews of Spain how they could resist the King of Spain who was forcing them to convert or even killing them, Yusef replied:
Where you say that the King of Spain would convert you to Christianity, do it because you have no alternative. Where you say that they deprive you of your property, make your sons merchants so that little by little you can take theirs. Where you say that they are robbing you of your lives, make your sons doctors and apothecaries so that you can end theirs. Where you say that they are destroying your synagogues, make your sons clerics and theologians, so you can destroy their churches. And as far as your other troubles are concerned, make your sons advocates, administrators, lawyers, and advisors, and let them take part in affairs of state so that you can control those affairs and gain land.
He forgot to mention media, but it’s understandable by that time
At the time of UN partition in 1947 the demographic problem was of the greatest concern for the Zionists because Palestinians outnumbered Jews in Palestine. (Notice the name of Palestine)”The proposed Jewish state: 498,000 Jews vs. 435,000 Palestinians; and the proposed Palestinian state: 10,000 Jews vs. 725,000 Arabs. These population numbers make it very clear why chasing the Palestinians from their land became a Zionist imperative.
Note the early Zionist popular saying “A land [Palestine] without a people for a people [Jews] without a land.
On 5 June 1967, Israel launched a pre-emptive strike (notice the similarity to Bush’s initially proposed preemptive strike against Iraq) against Egypt, Jordan and Syria. Because Israel managed in the first few hours to destroy the Arab air force by attacking its military air bases, Israeli air power was able to assure a quick victory. A prime basic cause was the unequal access to the area’s limited resource of water. “Israel’s victory had reversed the balance of water resources in the Middle East. Its occupation of the Golan Heights gave it control over the Banias headwaters. Israel’s occupation of the West Bank gave it important groundwater resources;
Powerful religious fundamentalists and others with their goal of a Greater Israel won the day and settlements began to be built in the Occupied Territories. Jewish settlements being built in the Occupied Territories while it [the U.S.] continued to finance these settlements with ongoing very large annual funding given to Israel. A great deal of land around the settlements and along the interconnecting Israeli only road systems has been seized and cleared of Palestinian homes and centuries old olive groves.
The detailed maps of the present settlement systems in the Occupied Territories are not generally available to the outside world. Three million Palestinians are forced to live with these settlement “facts” (plus the ever ongoing Palestinian home and farm demolitions, and a general breakup of their civil infrastructure) day in and day out.
Support for Israel is garnered under false pretenses and enforced through coercive tactics. Americans should consider the effect of these strong-arm tactics on American’s public life. A small but powerful lobby has had an inordinate influence on the executive and legislative branches of the government, on the media, and on American’s public culture. Neither a former president nor Nobel Peace Prize winner like Jimmy Carter, or establishment professors from prestigious universities like John Mearsheimer (University of Chicago) and Stephen Walt (Harvard University), are immune from charges of anti-semitism if they question Israel’s (The cancer cell) policies. These assaults on the personal integrity of people who express non-mainstream political views have had a profoundly corrosive effect on free speech and public debate. Members of Congress of both parties accept pro-zionist’s political action committee money and in return, they support and initiate legislation in support of cancer cell, Israel. Both the public and the media have been trained to accept without question the unseemly spectacle of presidential candidates and elected officials who swear allegiance to a foreign country, as though this should inspire the trust of U.S. voters. Zionist’s illegal policies toward Palestinians and its neighbors have been the subject of more than 65 U.N. resolutions. Israel the cancer cell, routinely ignores General Assembly and Security Council resolutions, and its intransigence is defended by the United States. Supporting zionists puts the United States at odds with most of the people of the world, and it also means that the U.S. government grows accustomed to defending violations of international law. Yet United States is not above the law. Pro-zionist’s organizations and individuals have led the campaign promoting anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bigotry in United States and elsewhere. Generalizations and smears that would be easily identified as bigotry if African Americans or Latinos were the subject trigger no objections when they are made about Arabs and Muslims. Palestinians in growing numbers are demanding equal rights for all residents of Mandate Palestine. Americans can hardly oppose this demand while at the same time claiming to be a beacon of freedom and democracy for all peoples.
When it comes to the remarks made by Dr. Ahmadinejad and the following zionists media propaganda, this is what our president said.
'The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time'.
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from)
Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase 'rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods' (regime occupying Jerusalem). That's because the word 'map' was never used. The Persian word for map, 'nagsheh', is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase 'wipe out' ever said. Yet YOU are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to 'wipe Israel off the map', despite never having uttered the words 'map', 'wipe out' or even 'Israel'.
Thanks to 'Iranian' for his explaination.
Finkelstein is one of those jews that keeps the world from turning anti-semitic. They prohibit us from establishing a picture of the jews today as a collection of crazy people led by gangesters and terrorists. thanks to Finkelstien and chomsky and Avnery and the other heros for keeping us from being fooled by Olmert and Sharon that they represent the jews. But more, I think that the jews should be very greatful for them for that.
'The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth'
Deceptive techniques of distortion and manipulation continue to be used today to support the profit-making war machine. Thanks to the Internet and excellent alternative news websites such as www.presstv.com those who want to know can now find viable alternative viewpoints and explore the veracity of questionable news reports in the mainstream media.
Is zionism derived from nazism? There's a similarity in the spelling.
Jews are commiting a Holocaust in slow motion within Gaza.
The palestinaians have a right to be free and independent.
They have a right to fight back , by whatever means, especially when their childen and women are being killed by Isreali soldiers.
Having survived the holocaust i now see the Jews using Nazi tactics on the Palestinins, like placing them in ghettos, confiscating their property, and using false propaganda in the USA.
Its a shame, the Isrealis/jews should uphold the moral highground and behave responsibly.
It's cute how hard you anti-Israel loons, like the nutjobs above and on earlier pages, work to try to promote hatred of Israel, and hatred of Jews in general OTHER than the select few lunatics like Finkelstein who work hard to do the exact same thing, promote as much anti-Israel garbage as possible.
In other words, the only Jews you antisemites like are the small handful of mentally-diseased ones that spew horrible things about Israel.
Israel is not 'committing a holocaust'
Palestinians aren't 'fighting for freedom.' They are fighting to destroy Israel. If they ever just want freedom next to israel, in peaceful fashion, they can have it at any time. They've never offered it to israel.
Iranian is just spamming and should be removed from this comment section. He's just flood-pasting anti-israel propaganda
An ugly rat was not allowed in. Bravo, Israel! Finally, Israel is coming to grips with its reality.
Israel is scrutinized because it is Jewish and democratic. The 22 fascist, ultra-conservative, dictatorial Arab regimes are not criticized because the leftists do not respect the Arabs. From their warped leftist perspective the Arabs are not prone to democracy and freedom. Therefore, why criticize them? They cannot do anything about it anyway.
Who cares about the persecution of Coptic Cristians in Egypt or discrimination of Kurds in Syria. Who cares that most Arab states who occupy the 99.9% of the Middle East are based on external/internal terror? Who cares anout the honor killings within the Arab societies? Who cares that the Arabs import and mistreat the foreign workers (slaves) from India, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, etc.? Who cares about the slaughter of the Black Africans by the Sudanese Arab militia? Who cares about the gay Arabs in the Palestinian Arab areas who flee for their lives to the Jewish sovereignity so that they can remain safe and sound?
The world must ignore the Arab persecution of the innocent people and focus of the tiny Jewish land of Israel.
agumMay asks: Guess who blew it (=Yasser Arafat International AP)to pieces?
Arab terrorists blew themselves off the airport. Sought class A sits to the virgins in hell.
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