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A Non-ZionistJan 30th, 2008 - 08:48:03

This leader doesn't deserve the world stage. His kind makes the world a worse place to live in.

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marge, USAJan 30th, 2008 - 09:51:37

Iran and the Arab countries need to unite and fight against Israel's atrocities and human rights violations against Palestinians and other Arabs. Israel recently tried to commit genocide on 1.5 million Palestinians by blockading Gaza and causing mass deaths from starvation, lack of medical care, disease, and violence. Israel has brought nothing but conflict, death, and destruction to the Middle East since its inception in 1948. Israel needs containment.

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SOHRABJan 30th, 2008 - 10:49:40

Israel has no right to exist under its current regime, it is guilty of genocide by proxy over decades of occupation, they must be held to account and the dignity and honour of the Palestinian people restored whatever the consequence, then groups like Al-qaeda will vanish into thin air because no-one will support groups that call for continued conflict in the region.

Ahmadinijad, although a conservative, has created the ground for real change in the region and all Arab countries should support him and Iran as they tackle one of the regions biggest thorns.

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RealistJan 30th, 2008 - 14:07:00

It is the hate of the islamicists that is wearing on the world and is destined to collapse under the weight of the persecution of their own people.

Israel's right to exist is a well established fact and no ranting by the anti-semites will change that. Israel has the most vibrant and diverse economy in the region and is in no danger of collapse, much to the chagrin of the Iranian leadership.

The indignities were perpetrated on the Pals by their Arab brothers who ignored their responsibilities and only gave them the promise of Israel's destruction (which in a multitude of wars did not happen)and then abandoned them in the camps where they live today. The world should look to the Arab world to make things right for the Pals not Israel.

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CharlesJan 30th, 2008 - 15:20:51

This makes all of you Israel haters look pretty foolish I must say:

'The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.'

(PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)

Read the above 3 times over. Then re-read it again.

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IranianJan 30th, 2008 - 22:03:47

Of all these comments from zionists and friends, one struck me, A Non-Zionist. It reminded me about a book I read a couple of years ago. 'Infidels' written by Andrew Wheatcroft.

In page 106 he writes about the Christian obsession with newly converted Jews. 'These false converts were said to make constant attempts to undermine the Christian kingdoms' and mentions the 'forged text' like the concoction in 1492 of the letter of Yusef, Chief of the Jews of Constantinople.

'Asked by the Jews of Spain how they could resist the King of Spain who was forcing them to convert or even killing them, Yusef is 'supposed' to have replied:

Where you say that the King of Spain would convert you to Christianity, do it because you have no alternitive. Where you say that they deprive you of your property, make your sons merchants so that little by little you can take theirs. Where you say that they are robbing you of your lives, make your sons doctors and apothecaries so that you can end theirs. Where you say that they are destroying your synagogues, make your sons clerics and theologians, so you can destroy their churches. And as far as your other troubles are concerned, make your sons advocates, administrators, lawyers, and advisors, and let them take part in affairs of state so that you can gain land.'
He forgot to mention the media but it's understandable by that time.

Så Mr. A Non-Zionist, L'Chaim!

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CharlesJan 30th, 2008 - 22:23:32

@Iranian

So what do you think of Zahir Muhsein's comments?

They fly in the face of all of the propaganda you have been force fed since birth. Is he also a zionist?

Your last post is pretty funny. It almost makes me think you are paranoid and delusional!

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IranianJan 30th, 2008 - 22:45:52

In order to provoke the nature of some people I write in different ways. You may call me what ever you wish. I have never called YOU a zionist. I actually feel sorry for you.

If propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behavior of people, like our Orcestrated media then no I'm totaly against it. But if propaganda presents facts selectively to encourage a particular concern like the deliberate and systematic destruction of Palestine by the cancer cell, zionist Israel and its ss-soldiers, then deffinitly.

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CharlesJan 31st, 2008 - 15:28:23

@Iranian

So what do you think of Zahir Muhsein's comments?

Is he part of the Zionist conspiracy too?

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IranianJan 31st, 2008 - 21:50:39

I thought I answered that question. Apparently not. Who is this guy and what has he been saying and in what context?

I should use my time to reveal bloodthirsty zealots and make fun of articles written by fascist and racist hooligans than cheap chating with a brainwashed former American soldier who has nothing in this life but to reimburse the debts, the fun he had during his service in the occupied Palestine.

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CharlesJan 31st, 2008 - 22:37:52

I suppose your only response in the face of sug=ch devastating evidence is to change the subject.

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Zuheir Mohsen (Arabic: زهير محسن, also transcribed Zuhayr Muħsin or Zahir Muhsein) (b. 1936, d. 1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-sponsored as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.

In 1976, Zuheir Mohsen gained notoriety for being the commander of the Arab forces that invaded the Lebanese Christian town of Damour, which resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Christian citizens, known as the Damour massacre.

Zuhair Mohsen is widely known for having made the following statement in a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw:

'The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.'

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Non-ZionistFeb 18th, 2008 - 11:10:23

I am against discrimination of any peoples, be they Jews, Iranians, Arabs, etc., and I am against anyone who refuses to tolerate others' religious practices unless they persecute those others. Let us stand before our maker and declare that we have not chosen to wipe out any one sect or tribe or people. Go ahead, and create your scenario, just don't get too real. As for atheists, they have their place, and they have good Non-Religious people amongst them.

上帝是与你

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