Sunni faction alleges 350 dead in US military operation in Baquba

agreeJul 2nd, 2007 - 10:19:38

C'hrisitanJul 2nd, 2007 - 07:30:18

...if we don´t kill them they will try to kill us'

Right, I guess every woman and children that US helicopters killed were eager to kill US citizens yeah, really. This is looking like a genocide and the Bush administration, the most murderous regime the world have seen since the day´s of Hitler are, once again, responsible'

'...This is looking like a genocide and the Bush administration, the most murderous regime the world have seen since the day´s of Hitler...'

For the sake of accuracy I would put the jew State first. But just by a nose mind you.

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Dave ThomasJul 2nd, 2007 - 14:22:36

Killing ignorant followers of a murderous ideology developed by a medieval pedophile is always a good thing. The important question is how long will it take to render Islam totally impotent? We did it to Nazism and Islam isn't any different from Nazism. Be patient, the end of Islam as a major force is near.

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Adm HalseyJul 2nd, 2007 - 16:33:22

Easy to indentify the al-Qaeda types from a helicopter what with the neon lights on their turbans flashing 'al-Qaeda'. The United Nations was created in the hopes of forstalling a world in which 'might makes right', but the Bush and Cheney didn't want to let that get in the way of their grand little war. But what to do when the American people get sick of the war and sick of the lies?

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eyeseeJul 2nd, 2007 - 17:18:02

The Fascist, Nazi republic of the US continues its rain of terror on the people of Iraq. Complacent Americans are just sitting around as did the German people when Hitler was committing terror.

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DanielleJul 2nd, 2007 - 18:09:09

All of you are so concerned with who is right and who is wrong, who should have power and who should not, who is serving God and who is not. I say when humans shed blood they are displeasing God who sent Jesus to give us the law of love. War is a fact of life and everyone who participates in it is guilty. Stop thinking with selfish hearts and rise above your petty needs, think of what would please God. Both Muslim and coalition soldiers are causing damage to everyone, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and it boils down to greed for power. A sin in God's eyes. If everyone now in the Middle East would pray to God for guidance, that would be His answer. I say there should be one day declared for prayer on both sides where each person reflects on his or her situation and puts out a call to God as to what path to take. 1 day of reflection, no violence, 1 day of peace. And I say one thing to all Muslims, if God wanted all this death and blood shed then He is breaking His promise to all His people and God's word is life, not death. Everthing on this planet belongs to Him and who are you to blaspheme and destroy His creation in the name of just one religion, one prophet. The 'chosen' people were chosen so as to bring knowledge to the rest of the world of our Creator, not be the only ones to receive His gifts. Jesus made that very clear when he answered 'who is my neighbor?' All believers in God have the duty to light the way to Him by their beliefs. Are you sure Allah is God and not Satan? I cannot imagine a brutal God calling for the destruction of His people...His children, His creation........God is not limited. His love extends to all His creation not just to the Muslims.

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RE: DanielleJul 2nd, 2007 - 19:03:38

First of all, what world do you live in? This is a discussion forum, not a Sunday morning church 'lesson'. You act like this is the first time you are aware of war. You act as if a Christian never has spilled blood. What a joke. Let me tell you something about God....He know's our limits. He know's the human psyche. God doesn't call the destruction for His people, b.c that would be a contradiction wouldn't it? He calls for destruction of injustice, even if it may be His creation, i.e. man. His love will never extend to those who follow injustice, of any creed. You are very vague in who you call a 'chosen' person, please elaborate. You cleary don't understand Islam b.c you say 'name of just one religion, one prophet' but you miss the fact that Islam accepts/endorses all true prophets. And yes, according to any religion, Islam or Christianity, God is limited to what they follow.

Wake up, this is a picture perfect world you live in.

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RE: Dave ThomasJul 2nd, 2007 - 19:10:41

Such strong aspirations huh. You must be ready to go out and murder all the Muslims huh. YOu are my hero! Although you miss one important fact....Islam cannot be compared to Nazism or Communism or Christianity. Little do you know that despite Islamic nations lack of military they have huge financial institutions established. If you want to see world-wide poverty, inflation, and chaos you would attempt to fight Islam. Many Islamic nations hold a card greater than military forces: energy production. If you attempt to disrupt that process the entire global market will plummet. Europe will cease to be industrialized, India and China will come to a stand-still if energy uses are not adequete.

So is your comparison between Islam and Nazism accurate? I hardly think so tough guy. Get your head out your ass you ignorant bigot.

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RE, RE,Jul 2nd, 2007 - 23:46:10

'This is a discussion forum, not a Sunday morning church 'lesson'.'

LOL! Too bad! We hear plenty of islamist mumbo-jumbo here, go try to censor them. Or does your outrage only extend to Christians?

'God doesn't call the destruction for His people, b.c that would be a contradiction wouldn't it?'

I guess Mohammad didn't speak for God then. How many Christians do you see flying aircraft full of people in to buildings full of people?

'. You cleary[sic] don't understand Islam b.c you say 'name of just one religion, one prophet'

Well, 'This is a discussion forum', not a segregated islamist indoctrination seminar on jihadi ideology... However, either you are lying or it is you who do not understand Islam. From your Koran:

Qur'an:9:5 'Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.'
Qur'an:9:29 'Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.'
Qur'an:9:88 'The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause.'
Qur'an:9:14 'Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.'
Qur'an:9:38 'Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.'
Qur'an:9:123 'Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.'
Qur'an 5:51 'Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.'
Qur'an 9:29 'Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.' [Another translation says:] 'pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.'
Qur'an 5:17 '...Say (Muhammad): ‘Who then has the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary, his mother, and everyone else on earth?'
Qur'an 5:35 'Believers, fear Allah and seek the way to approach Him, striving hard, fighting Jihad with all your might in His Cause that you may be successful. As for the disbelievers [previously defined as Christians], if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.'
Qur'an 5:49 'And this (He commands): Judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their [Christian] desires, but beware of them lest they beguile you, seducing you away from any of that which Allah hath sent down to you. And if they turn you away [from being Muslims], be assured that for their crime it is Allah's purpose to smite them. Truly most men are rebellious.'
Qur'an 5:73 'They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them - the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom.'
Qur'an 5:77 'Say (Muhammad): ‘People of the Book, do not overstep the bounds in your religion, or follow the people who erred and led many astray. Cursed are the unbelievers among the Children of Israel by David and Jesus.... They do vile things, allying themselves with the infidels so that Allah's indignation is upon them and in torment they will suffer for all eternity.' [Another translation reads:] 'Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.'
Qur'an 5:80 'You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.'
Qur'an 5:82 'You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims.'
Qur'an 5:117 'I only said what You (Allah) commanded me to say: Worship Allah, my lord and your Lord. I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them but you took me up. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world.)'.

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Re, Re, Re...Jul 2nd, 2007 - 23:50:31

'Although you miss one important fact....Islam cannot be compared to Nazism or Communism or Christianity. '

Well, like Nazism or Communism it is a political ideology, it also has religious overtones.

'Little do you know that despite Islamic nations lack of military they have huge financial institutions established.'

Then why do they need so much aid from the west? Why are their people going without basics that the rest of us take for granted? Why are they so blasted backwards then?

' Many Islamic nations hold a card greater than military forces: energy production.'

You can drill for oil through rubble.

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RayneJul 26th, 2007 - 14:06:12

I agree with a past commentor who said that Saddam ruled with an iron hand and many people were murdered by his command - he had control, then he was toppled and the unsurgents were in control and many people were murdered - just exchanging one horror for another - no difference!!

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