Leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed in militant clashes (1st Lead)
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May 1, 2007, 9:27 GMT
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oh what a terrible shame.
i thought the man was doing so well!
When are US and UK troops going to get the hell out of the Middle-East and stop killing people over there? They will not be forgiven for their barbarism.
'Bin Laden was, throughout the 80s armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally 'the database', was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west.'
Robin Cook RIP
Good one.
No doubt some other rag head will step up into his place.
Get rid of the rules of engagement and sort them all out properly.
Softly softly does not work in the real world.
Kill em all,let God sort em out..
Aw what a shame I hope it was painfull.
They are protecting the world from terroris...uh, I mean murderers... The terroris..uh, I mean murderers are the one that are killing the innocents. Get a grip people.
Al Qaida means 'the base' as in 'base of operations', not database.
The nearest word in Arabic for a database would tranlate to library.
However, it is true that they were armed with russian made weaponry and funded in part with US dollars through the intermediary of Pakistan's ISI. I think they found that it's not a good idea to pick a fight with the guy that built your HQ.
Dylan Carr-Michael= ill remember your name when their at your doorstep!!!
Dylan Carr-Michael; what did you do, take your boyfriends last name and add it to yours?
Sunni tribesmen killed him. US had nothing to do with it.
The number of deaths from terrorism last year was 20,000 (just over half in Iraq)
The number of gun linked deaths in the US last years was 30,000
Who is the biggest threat ?
So, Dylan Carr-Michael...let's just pull out of the Middle East and let all the terrosists murder innocent people and convert the world to Islam. We'll all just sit around waiting to be beheaded because you feel that the US and UK shouldn't be removing the world of terrorist scum. Brilliant.
--- Dylan Carr-MichaelMay 1st, 2007 - 11:24:45
When are US and UK troops going to get the hell out of the Middle-East and stop killing people over there? They will not be forgiven for their barbarism. ---
Hmm... when there is a bit more stability in the region? What do you really think will happen if they pull out now? Civil war in Iraq is what. The body count will go up tenfold.
It seems pretty convenient that the supposed leader of Al-Qaeda has been killed the same day the president plans to veto the war funding/timeline bill.
Other than this, they a great people! What else is there to know?
America - Love it or Leave it!
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of
Arabia .
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except
Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam
and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns
in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends
with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders),
who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great
Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat
and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution
since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be
corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow
freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent
names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation...perhaps we should be very
suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both
'good' Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....it's still the
truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements,
perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this,
the better it will be for our country and our future.
Pass it on, Fellow Americans.
The war is bigger than we know or understand.
Sgt george, what are you doing here - shouldn't you be somewhere hot and dusty losing a war?
Patriot - I'm puzzled - you seem against the idea of getting out of Iraq because the terrorism will increase, yet the figures show a massive increase last year, so what are you achieving by being in Iraq ?
But my basic point remains - far more people are killed by guns in america that by terrorism worldwide - so where is the most dangerous place ?
there really are a load of gung-ho twats on this site. I suspect the full extent of their reading material is the Sun and the Express, poor deluded sods!
What is a 'Good American'?
What is a good American?
Can Americans today see the similarities between Hitler's Germany and Bush's America? Of course, the Germans said that they couldn't have known the evil that the Third Reich was capable of. It is perhaps unfair to say that every American who isn't doing everything possible now to stop the insanity is personally morally responsible for the death of every Iraqi.
However, there is an immoral crime of the highest order being committed in America, and somebody is morally responsible. History teaches us lessons if we care to learn them
Do the Good Americans say (as the Good Germans did):
I didn't vote for him
Most people don't support him
I engaged in some forms of protest
Although the forms of protest I engaged in were mocked and derided by the government and by those in the media,
I did everything I could do and I sure felt good about myself as I protested
If it weren't for the fact that the government would arrest and possibly kill me, I would have done more
I didn't see anything directly, so I wasn't sure of how bad it actually was
people in positions of high authority convinced me that whatever they were doing was for the best
I live in a civilized, democratic country, certainly the most civilized and democratic that has ever been, and my country wouldn't do evil things
These people were going to destroy our country, so what we had to do was just self-defense
Why do you blame us when we're the victims?
There are many people in my country who support our government with a radical fervor, many of them my neighbors and relatives, and I want to get along with them or I fear their reaction should I dare to express dissent
Anyone who expresses the least amount of dissent faces the general hatred of the public
Anyone who expresses the least amount of dissent may lose his or her job or livelihood
Anything I might have done wouldn't have made any difference
The people who are doing the work of the government are 'our troops', and must be supported in whatever they have to do on our behalf
The alleged victims of my government aren't fully human, and their lives aren't worth even the slightest inconvenience or risk to our lives
The alleged victims of my government have a false and evil religion, and my true religion gives me the right to eliminate them
After the sufferings we've faced, no one can dare tell us what to do
What my country is doing is actually for the improvement of the lives of what busybodies describe as its 'victims'
My country right or wrong (no, sorry, that is someone else - the Germans weren't that stupid)
Our leaders are particularly blessed and wise, with a direct line to God, and would never do the wrong thing.
Thanks to Fascism watch for this article.
Who's want to be a Good American?
Bill - Your comment 'But my basic point remains - far more people are killed by guns in america that by terrorism worldwide - so where is the most dangerous place ?'. You are comparing apples to oranges. If we did not protect ourselves and let terrorists continue to grow and viciously murder all non-Islams (which is what their goal is), terrorism deaths would far exceed any gun deaths in America. 9-11 was nothing compared to what these people are capable of.
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