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'They blow themselves up every day' - ha ha ha. Great comment! The weapons they're using as improvised explosive devices are in fact US military weapons that didnt explode! Funny how the media never mentions this. But, in the end, they did explode, just not on innocent Iraqi civillians! Truly a good one! I commend thee.
Comical Ali
'China and Canada are not debtor nations. '
Debt /GDP percentage:
Canada 65.40 2006 est.
China 22.10 2006 est.
So I guess you don't know what you are talking about then...
'Plus, Canada sits on a ton of resources! Given a choice of investing in Canada or US, I'd take Canada hands down. Same is true with China vs US.'
It's your money. Read NAFTA first.
'You are in FACT wrong.'
I just posted the debt loads of the 2 countries. YOU ARE IN FACT WRONG.
'Last I checked the powerful US economy was running an account deficit AND trade deficit. '
If you are generating more income, you can spend more. (How can you not get this)
'My question is, why do you want to be a part of the debt? Why not become part of the profit?'
Like most things that come out of your mind, it is a stupid question. Of course we would like Zero debt and all profit. Reality doesn't work that way. Not for anyone who is building anything of importance. If you are going to build a house, you are going to have to borrow... Same with a country. You then work to pay off the debt.
Boy, so many split personalities here....
And..as for Conspiracy Theory. What planet do you live on. Cant you hear with your ears all the lies of the Bush Administration? Plllllease! They've lied since day one. And they keep on lying. At what point do you recognize this? Hmmm.
It's no conspiracy at all. The powers that be want oil prices up. Think of it from the other angle. If oil prices drop, the US dollar drops with it! It's truly a disfunctional relationship. But it worked after the US broke the gold standard in the early 1970's. Funny how oil escalated in price just as oil became only tradeable in dollars. Hmmm. Conspiracy. Ha, fact.
Great comments by all! Wish you all the best!
And for those reading, please do your own research on Peak Oil and Dollar Hegemony. Decide for yourself. To me, it IS for real. You can use this information to protect your assets in the years to come. I'm already doing it and it's paying large dividends. Be part of the smart money, not the dumb money.
Best to All,
Comical Ali
OK OK OK reality is setting in. 14 beheadings and 1 stoning to soon come. God bless the hostages, I pray the Britts are not following Jimmy Carters footsteps and act fast. for the firsgt week diplomacy, 2nd week engagement in the area, 3rd week the sands of iran turns to glass.
'The weapons they're using as improvised explosive devices are in fact US military weapons that didnt explode!'
Another completely made up 'fact' eh?
Gee, they look like they were predominately Iraqui army ordanence left over from Saddam. That and the stuff Iran has shipped them to kill our soldiers. Yet another reason to deal with Iran.
'But, in the end, they did explode, just not on innocent Iraqi civillians! Truly a good one! I commend thee.'
Not the first time you have celebrated the deaths of American and British soldiers here.
...one last comment. I dont think holding debt makes you a NET debtor nation. It's when you have more debt than you can repay! Clearly the US is in this bucket and Canada and China are not. But, good try. I respect that!
Here's a little bit of info to boot: The US account deficit is roughly $9 Trillion (yes, this true). That's about $30,000 for every living breathing US citizen. Ok, but, what happens when you add in Social Security and Medicare oblications!? It goes up to $50 Trillion! Wow, that's a wholliping $166,666 per living breathing person in the US! Hmm. Smells like debtor nation to me!
Now you can see why the US govt is so concerned with propping up the dollar. Trust me, it's in free fall as we speak. It will continue as central banks of the world run for the exit door.
So, yes, in the end, the Iran/UK current 'kidnapping' situation is more about global hegemony and nothing else. Watch it play out. It should be real good.
Best to All,
Comical Ali (Great name!)
'And..as for Conspiracy Theory. What planet do you live on. Cant you hear with your ears all the lies of the Bush Administration? Plllllease! They've lied since day one. And they keep on lying. At what point do you recognize this? Hmmm.'
So I guess the Iranians didn't take British sailors hostage then... Or it was at the insistence of the Zionist neocons you blame for everything, eh? No one else on the planet is responsible for anything other then them.
'It's no conspiracy at all. The powers that be want oil prices up'
Who are these 'powers that be'?
'If oil prices drop, the US dollar drops with it!'
Usually the exact opposite of reality. Even if it were the fact, a dropping dollar would decrease imports and increase exports and close that deficit that you keep railing on about. As usual you do not make the slightest bit of sense.
'But it worked after the US broke the gold standard in the early 1970's.'
One has nothing to do with the other.
'Funny how oil escalated in price just as oil became only tradeable in dollars. Hmmm. Conspiracy. Ha, fact.'
Well gee, I thought it was peek oil a few minutes ago, now it is the gold standard... Good lord, you are just tossing nonsense out to see what sticks. You are grasping at straws and you obviously do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
'And for those reading, please do your own research on Peak Oil and Dollar Hegemony. Decide for yourself. To me, it IS for real.'
Agreed! Just don't seize on the first few moonbat links you come across. There is a lot of Nonsense on the internet and this fellow loves to regurgitate it.
'Best to All,'
Bye Bye
Boom Boom Out Go The Lights...
' I dont think holding debt makes you a NET debtor nation. It's when you have more debt than you can repay!'
Well that is not what you said. Regardless, I posted the ratios of debt to GDP and ours compared favorably to Canada's. The country that you said you were mad about investing in a while ago. Again, you do not know what you are talking about.
'Clearly the US is in this bucket and Canada and China are not. But, good try. I respect that!'
US debt to gdp/debt ratio is LESS then Canada's. SAY IT over and over until it clicks in your brain. WE OWE LESS MONEY COMPARED TO OUR GDP THEN CANADA DOES. SAY IT until you understand. That is just a fact.
'Ok, but, what happens when you add in Social Security and Medicare oblications!? It goes up to $50 Trillion!'
The 9 trillion includes entitlements... AGAIN, you do not know what you are talking about. That '50 trillion you cite is ALL debt held by Americans. Home loans, ect. That is not public debt, that is private debt. It is outright lying to say the USA is broke because people own their own houses. That is an indication of strength, not weakness.
'Hmm. Smells like debtor nation to me!'
Man, I would just love to do business with someone so naive yet full of themselves. You are a born rube.
'Now you can see why the US govt is so concerned with propping up the dollar. '
You are thinking of the Euro. Again, if the US dollar drops compared with.. Jeez, Ill just cuit and paste at this point: A dropping dollar would decrease imports and increase exports and close that deficit that you keep railing on about. As usual you do not make the slightest bit of sense.
...like most successful enterprises. I'm not sure what this has to do with iranian hostages, but we are making tax revenue like it's coming from heaven.
Ivor-
Is your name really nathan? You and the other commies need to be reminded that iran has taken hostages again. Remember the Belarus debacle where your govt went and killed the innocents. iran is far from innocent and deserves the respect it will get...NONE
To everyone, excellent comments and discussion. I'm facinated with all view points. Which leads me to ask the following questions:
1. Which nation (Or entity) is currently benefiting the most from the conflicts in the middle east? (My personal feeling would either be China or world-wide defense contractors)
2. What is the point of having a huge conventional military? (I think that Afghanastan (vs the Russians) officially ended conventional wars. What's the point of building a 2 million dollar tank that can be destroyed by a few thousand dollar RPG? Same goes for most aircraft.)
3. It is my personal belief (I am an American) that we cannot win in the middle east, no matter how much money, military presence, and other efforts we concentrate in the area. You cannot kill a belief with bombs. However which would be better: Pulling out immediately or pulling out gradually (and if so over what period of time)? (Also if you feel that we can win I would like to hear how)
4. How long until China overtakes the USA?
And as a little joke:
Bombing for peace is like screwing for virgintiy
Cell Phone .. I was in Baghdad while you were still in Dads Bag .. I am a native born Brit .. I have also served in the Colonial outposts in sensitive border areas to protect the Oil Refinery and the pipe lines .. it was there that I finally woke up to what a bestial sham the whole rotten business is .. no modern army and that includes the false flag merchants .. like rangers, seals and SAS can hope to prevail against patriotic militias.
Commies? what is that supposed to mean? America just like Britain is a failed experiment in Freedom and Democracy stakes .. coz they aint got any .. Bush sure shit all over Posse comitatus .. martial law next .. then the imposition of the Fascist Dictatorship .. but never mind the free world will bail you all out
Well if you are into the mad bestiality .. pick up the gun .. get your ass into gear and go join the rest of the Halliburton slaughtered lambs .. What a bunch of poncers .. they cant even run their own nations .. just look at the Ghettos and the homeless and the size of the Prison population .. Look at Gitmo probably modeled on Federal Prisons .. you guys could not run a piss up in a brewery ..
Ya had your chances with the Constitution .. failed miserably .. the major American export is Corporate led wars of agression .. that awful blood soaked road leading through the Carribean .. South America and the Middle and Far east .. and my Nation is no better .. Afghanistan .. Rofl ..the Brits are taking it up the Khyber once again.
Shivers ..
'1. Which nation (Or entity) is currently benefiting the most from the conflicts in the middle east? (My personal feeling would either be China or world-wide defense contractors)'
Short and shitty .. Israel the bastard entity .. It is the Israelis who are pushing America into a confrontation with Iran which will set the whole world aflame.
It is quite apparent to me that many who have posted in this thread have never experienced combat. They seem to think its a Video game. The road for those who the Iranians have detained .. leads all the way back to 1948.
Everyone, 'Ivor' is a lying bigot. His antisemitism here is legendary. Give him a bit of attention and he will go on for 50 pages about how the Jews are at fault for everything under the sun and the holocaust was a hoax. He has more pseudonyms and split personalities then the schizophrenic ward at the mental hospital, which is where he belongs.
AH yes I see that Zionisti the masked wonder is back .. how ya doing shit head?
My anti-semetism is legendary eh? well if I support the Palestinians against the Jews .. irrespective of what the Jews did in 1948 .. I cannot be anti-semetic can I?
The Israeli lies are unravelling faster than a kittens ball of wool .. Ilan Pappe the distinguished Jewish Historian has got hold of all the relevant documents from 1948 .. the Jews Ethnically cleansed Palestine .. leaving just a few refugee camps in the West Bank and Gaza and still the murderous untermensch continue to try to exterminate the children ..
The videos are all over U tube and else where on the net .. the Heroic and Moral IDF shooting little kids in the head .. and the Jewish settlers who have moved further into the West Bank taking over Palestinian properties and stoning the Palestinian kids on the way to school .. Oh and I must mention Rachel Corrie the Christian peace worker who was ran over twice by an Israeli bulldozer .. first when the heroic IDF driver ran her down and second when he backed up over her to make sure she was dead .. its on the net .. Google it.
Israel is the one that is pushing the confrontation with Iran. If she does .. Zionisti meat head .. get this straight .. Israel is finished .. another murderous failed experiment .. which will give birth to a free Palestine for the first time in 59 years.
Because when those nukes start popping .. there aint no escape for anyone .. and when that realisation sinks in .. then the Zionists and all of the crooks in the corridors of power are Crow bait!
There it is, Pretty emblematic of the mindset that wants to appease Iran. It's OK for Iran to take British hostages because of his hate for the Jews.
Ahhhhhh Somebody give Ivor a baby bottle, and a bar of soap! A baby bottle to signify your infantile mind, and a bar of soap to wash out your mouth! What we have here folks, is the long lost missing link. You know, the ape like creature that tries to articulate, but fails miserably. Whoa, Ivor! Try to understand, that the banana goes into the OTHER hole! By all means, keep providing all of us entertained with your stupidity. We all need a good laugh! HA HA HA
Bottom line:
The last actual war that Iran was involved in, less than 20 years ago, was imposed on it without provocation by Iraq, backed by the United States. The situation was virtually identical (in terms of international law) to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, in 1990, only in those days, Saddam Hussein was an acceptable 'ally' of the U.S. (lol)
It doesn't matter how insane or corrupt the Iranian leader is; under the circumstances, with the world's only superpower possessing the world's largest nuclear arsenel (and rapidly persuing first-strike doctrines and technologies); generally doing whatever it wants regardless of international law or opinion...AND camped in force next door spouting years of provocative anti-Iranian hyperbole...it would be irresponsible for him as leader to leave Iran without a military deterrent.
In the current political climate, that deterrant could only be nuclear.
Besides, history proves that technological monopolies never remain for long, and it's completely futile to try to keep certain specific nations from developing technologies that others possess, and ridiculous to expect them not to try to acquire them.
As for invading Iran 'by whatever means necessary': Good luck with that. (lol)
Iran is bigger, more populous, less geographically hospitable, more nationalistic, more culturally and ethnically cohesive than Iraq, and unlike Iraq, apparently, nuclear armed. lol
If I were them, I'd finish cleaning up their current messes before starting any new ones. (Another 5-10 years, and they'll be finished with Iraq; then maybe they 'll be ready for a REAL war).
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