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Antonieta (now)Dec 30th, 2006 - 23:01:48

RIGHTWING FLIGHT... perhaps...
I'm an atom (never seen a camel though... except in Manhattan and the zoo). However... You're the whole piece of 'it'.
Get it?
:D

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BillDec 30th, 2006 - 23:07:13

Hey, Folks...

You're right to judge those who produce weapons that kill Americans as doing wrong. Here's the question: how many of the 3,000 (official military count, only) killed in Iraq were killed by US weapons--given to Iraqi police trainees, sold to insurgents by another secret Bush/Cheney subsidiary, stolen from US stockpiles, etc.?

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StrangerDec 30th, 2006 - 23:07:14

All I can say is that even do I am not an american citizen, I am glad to live in this country, and that I can't wait to become an American Citizen. I love the United States of America.

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RIGHTWING FLIGHTDec 30th, 2006 - 23:18:22

that analogy does not apply to antonieta's 'ascention' .....stupid liberals......choke on your own words..

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To BillDec 30th, 2006 - 23:25:03

By asking: 'how many of the 3,000. . .killed in Iraq were killed by US weapons. . .sold to insurgents by another secret Bush/Cheney subsidiary. . ?' you're implying that Bush & Cheney are selling arms directly to the enemy which in turn is being used to kill military personnel. If that were the case, some journalist would have already uncovered such a capital crime, which in my view would constiute high treason.

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why are you alive?Dec 30th, 2006 - 23:46:54

dear bulkid and all,

Remember 'the only good red is a dead red.' Funny how this kind of thinking doesn't go away, just moves on to other people who are bothering us today. Why don't you just kill everybody until you are the only one left. Then nobody will bother you.

The America/Al-Queda, Muslim/Christian, them/us mind is an easy way to avoid looking at ourselves. Our behavior is self-defeating. The way we ALL live in the world today, but most especially in the US, is not sustainable for much longer. We are living on ancient sunlight, the sun's energy that was stored in oil - that is millions of years of sunlight. Our food, housing, transportation, heating, entertainment, medicines, education, communication ability and the sheer number of people are all possible now only because of the tremendous amounts of energy used to support it. We will be through all that stored energy soon. Then what will we do? Converting to other ways of living will be traumatic.

Only animals and people who think they will go to heaven when they die, could behave so destructively towards animals, the planet and each other.

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geoDec 30th, 2006 - 23:48:00

to the idiot who thinks clinton was to blame for 911 and osama, just think, who killed all the arabs,clinton, or the bush family?

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geoDec 30th, 2006 - 23:51:57

maybe they ought to save that rope for a few more people that are responsible for all the killings over in the mid east !

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FolksDec 30th, 2006 - 23:53:09

I appreciate your reply, loneranger: 'It doesn't surprise me one bit about the Germans. After all they were responsisble for not one but two world wars. To me they've always been the supreme troublemakers in this world. I'm surprised the Germans here in the US don't go around goose stepping. Maybe the Aryan groups do. It's that Nazi mentality that still lingers in Germany like a bad smell that won't go away. No surprise.'
As a U.S. citizen living in Germany, I've been watching German politicians of all major parties acting like little Hitlers since the country's re-unification. It's quite scary when you hear and read the hate-filled German propaganda on TV or in the newspapers criticizing the USA as if our country were inhabited by 300 million criminals when at the same time Jews in Germany are being persecuted and threatened again just like in the early years of the Third Reich.

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Antonieta (now)Dec 31st, 2006 - 00:03:35

RIGHTWING FLIGHT... I don't even have to worry myself with that (least of all help with it).
YOU yourselves are doing a great job at it.
Farewell...

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lonerangerDec 31st, 2006 - 00:03:42

Folks, the Germans have never gotten over their loss in WWII. They'd like nothing better than to revenge that whuppin they got. Like I said, it's that Nazi mentality, the master race bull. If given the opportunity they're liable to start another world war. If it should come about, there will be no winners in the next one. We're all on the same ship. The Titanic.

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RIGHTWING FLIGHTDec 31st, 2006 - 00:12:28

ANTONIETA: Your life is not worth an american cats butt.You are not an American. please be on the next flight out of my country.

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Antonieta (now)Dec 31st, 2006 - 00:20:55

My dear RIGHTWING something...
Relax... I would NEVER but NEVER/EVER be a citizen of america. I could have been though, had I wished.
However, I know your country from a visitor's point of view (many a times) and believe me... I didn't like what I saw - yes, from Manhattan and 5 star hotels.
I suggest RIGHTWING that YOU travel a little more and... OPEN your eyes.
NOW, I'm tired of 'preaching to the deaf' (with few exceptions - Brian being one).
Take care...

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RIGHTWING FLIGHTDec 31st, 2006 - 00:24:49

whatever antonieta,.... just shut up

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FolksDec 31st, 2006 - 00:27:43

Brian, I'm the 'absolute idiot who was afraid to put a name on his on his piece about the Germans sellin Nuclear materials.'

As they say here in Germany: 'Das ist ein offenes Geheimnis.' (=That's an 'open secret'.)
You want some piece of evidence?
Read the following article titled: 'Germany Nuclear Parts Smuggled to Iran.'
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,408269,00.html


Loneranger, you hit the nail on the head again: 'it's that Nazi mentality, the master race bull. If given the opportunity they're [the Germans] liable to start another world war.'
It was Clinton's fault to have closed down major U.S. military bases in Germany and letting the Germans act out their superiority complex. Unfortunately, the Bush administration is also unaware of the future threat to world peace by the Germans.

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HarryDec 31st, 2006 - 01:40:41

Oh I meant to say there are real forums out there where you can have a clever discussion about world affairs and not just this where most in here are daft YANKS. 11% or so hold a passport.........thank F*ck wish it were only 1%.

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the truth is...Dec 31st, 2006 - 03:53:20

...war is a tool the US uses to control the human population expansion, it uses it on undesirable countries, that stand in way of US economic growth and development. The United States, along with it's -butt buddy support nations, are on a mission to control all the Worlds energy natural resources. Don't waste your time worring about when the next Big -Universe- Bang will arrive, or if a large meteor will strike the Earth destroying all life as we know it. Rather, keep your seleves busy paying higher taxes, fuel prices, enjoying the creature comforts of living, and trying to keep up with the Jones's; believing your government is has your best interest in mind. Most likely, when the big one hits, you will be caught off guard, as usual, and it wont matter much anyway for not an atom of your past existence will remain for the Second Coming. But life will go on and the Imperial United States will rebuild itself as the leading Military Industrial Nation, only to one day, on or about 2030, face off and confront another super power nation, namely: China; in an all out dooms day conflect, namely the mother of all wars, to end all wars; and life on this planet as we know it. Scary but, likely the truth...

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call it as i see itDec 31st, 2006 - 04:59:09

For the love of God, I swear, if someone here could put a gramatically correct, coherent sentence together, I would die of shock. I have never heard so many paranoia induced, conspiracy theorist, nut cases in my entire life. Antoinetta? If all you know of the U.S. is New York, or smaller still, Manhattan, you know nothing about the U.S., absolutely nothing. That is such a tiny piece of such a large country, you have nothing to base any opinions on regarding the U.S. And for my fellow Americans? You who think that your opinion is the majority opinion, whatever it is, are so arrogant, I'm ashamed to be from the same country as you are. This country and its people are so diverse, and to think that your opinion speaks for the majority just shows how small minded you are.

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Jon DowDec 31st, 2006 - 07:29:27

I believe that Saddam committed several crimes against humanity and deserved to die. But the way they carried out his execution only confirms what has been obvious from the way they conducted his trial.
The current Iraqi government is barbaric and uncivilized and not at all a democracy that can be trusted to respect the rights of the minority.
How can they allow the executioner to be chanting Al Sadr's praises? On top of that, they allowed the video to go public!
Saddam was supposedly executed by a secular government on the basis of a fair trial. Now we know what a sham it is.
Now there is no way the Sunnis will ever accept the current government.
Why is the US still in Iraq? To support a democratic government? If your definition of democratic government = majority rules, even if they enact a law enabling genocide of the minority.
It is just a matter of time before all Sunnis and Christians are all ethnically cleansed, and Iraq forms a united Shiite front w/ Iran. Nice piece of work Mr. GWB!!!

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Gordon SmithDec 31st, 2006 - 07:32:45

If it is any consolation to you Jon Dow...
When Iraq forms a united Shiite front w/ Iran, that means no more Al Queda operating in Iraq. We all know how Osama hate Shiites.

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