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lanceJun 10th, 2008 - 18:20:41

'tougher action to keep Iran from building a nuclear bomb'

Besides the fact that this is pure fiction with no supported evidence there is also the military strategic problem:

If Iran made one bomb it would be worse for them then none at all, and that is obvious and they know it. A country needs a complete arsenal and delivery system to succeed in the nuke field and that is not currently achievable by Iran and there is no indication that Iran is capable or even wants that type of build up. Nukes only make sense if they give overwhelming power to destroy, like the power the U.S. has.

'Other stops ... - including an audience at the Vatican with Pope Benedict XV'

Ah, yes. Now I see why the crusade against muslim nations continues.

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the teally scary thing...Jun 10th, 2008 - 19:45:34

is Bush has his finger on the button. The idiot might push it just to see what would happen. Children like him should not be allowed near big boy's toys.

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TerrorfiedJun 10th, 2008 - 20:22:53

How is it NOT front-page worthy that a sitting president of the United States had 35 articles of impeachment brought against him yesterday?

How is it NOT newsworthy that phase II of the Senate Intelligence Report regarding the runup to the Iraqi occupation was released yesterday, finding that the Bush administration actually DID exaggerate and manipulate intelligence information to garner support for the occupation??

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info.Jun 10th, 2008 - 21:54:30

get rid of bush you get rid of most of these problems

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JoeBJun 10th, 2008 - 22:46:47

Lance:
Yes, I would believe Iran over the US. Iran says they're only giving 'moral support' to Hezbollah (right), Iran has also been testing longer and longer range missiles (with the help or North Korea)- the IAEA found documents that Iran won't address that cover a design for a nuclear warhead (compact) that could fit on these missiles. As far as a crusade against muslims, the Iranians are the crusaders - trying to re-establish the caliphate across the Middle East and then ultimately across the world - everyone else is an infidel.

The story is the same one that didn't work in the Middle Ages, and it won't succeed again, no matter who leads the charge. So Bush acted and was mistaken, I guess we should all follow Iran's leadership to a better world. How stupid do you think people are?

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lanceJun 10th, 2008 - 23:31:53

'So Bush acted and was mistaken, I guess we should all follow Iran's leadership to a better world. How stupid do you think people are?'

Not stupid. Arrogant. People are arrogant. They expect domination, world-order and a homogenous system. What they should want is a fractured multi-cultural system where Iran is unimpeded in their jurisdiction and the U.S. is unimpeded in their jurisdiction. Where right and wrong is a matter of perspective geographically and where people respect differences and acknowledge the similarities of their positive and negative aspects.

Instead, we have world leaders intent on spreading the gospel of jesus and mohammed at any cost.

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Good for the EU FinallyJun 10th, 2008 - 23:55:52

The EU has grown coconuts and is showing life after fear. WOW this is impressive, maybe their heads will come out of the sand and see IRAN in the daylight. There is hope for the EU after all.

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Re. Terrorfied'[sic]Jun 11th, 2008 - 02:59:07

Good lord.

'How is it NOT front-page worthy that a sitting president of the United States had 35 articles of impeachment brought against him yesterday?'

Because he didn't. Kucinich doesn't have a case and they know it.

' finding that the Bush administration actually DID exaggerate and manipulate intelligence information to garner support for the occupation??'

Because that is not what it said. The New York Sun's editorial board notes that Rockefeller deliberately manipulated data for his committee's report to support the 'Bush Lied' BS:

Mr. Rockefeller decided to exclude a handwritten note from the CIA's terrorism analyst of the Mr. Bush's 2002 speech in Cincinnati on the eve of the Congressional vote authorizing the war saying the paragraphs about Iraq and terrorism were 'all-Okay.' Wrote Senators Bond, Chambliss, Hatch, and Burr in an addendum to the report: 'Apparently the majority did not think this was something the public needed to know since they denied our request to include it and did not allow a vote on the amendment offered to fix this shortcoming.'

www.nysun.com/editorials/the-senates-intelligence/79553/?print=70751031 21

EVEN STILL:

Fred Hiatt in the Washington Post:

But dive into Rockefeller's report, in search of where exactly President Bush lied about what his intelligence agencies were telling him about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, and you may be surprised by what you find.

On Iraq's nuclear weapons program? The president's statements 'were generally substantiated by intelligence community estimates.'

On biological weapons, production capability and those infamous mobile laboratories? The president's statements 'were substantiated by intelligence information.'

On chemical weapons, then? 'Substantiated by intelligence information.'

On weapons of mass destruction overall (a separate section of the intelligence committee report)? 'Generally substantiated by intelligence information.' Delivery vehicles such as ballistic missiles? 'Generally substantiated by available intelligence.' Unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to deliver WMDs? 'Generally substantiated by intelligence information.'

Hiatt also brings up Rockefeller's own inconvenient quote from October 2002:

'There has been some debate over how 'imminent' a threat Iraq poses. I do believe Iraq poses an imminent threat. I also believe after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. . . . To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? I do not think we can.'

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR200806080168 7.html

Verdict: Jay Rockefeller is a hyper-partisan weasel trying to project his own lack of character on others.

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lance, shut up you idiot islamistJun 11th, 2008 - 03:09:02

'What they should want is a fractured multi-cultural system where Iran is unimpeded in their jurisdiction'

Since 1979, Iranians or Iranian funded and controlled terrorist groups have; invaded the US embassy and held our diplomatic staff for 444 days, took American journalists and a British minister hostage in Lebanon, killing William Buckley, bombed the US embassy in Lebanon killing 17 Americans, bombed the US barracks Beirut which killed 241 Americans on a peacekeeping mission, bombed the Khobar Towers killing 19 Americans, hijacked an aircraft and killed Robert Stethem and dumped his body on the tarmac, bombed a Jewish center in Argentina, killing 85, their proxy Hezbollah has started several conflicts with Israel, including the one last summer which left hundreds dead. They still have a bounty on the head of Salmon Rushdie for writing a book that they didn’t like, they have provided the Shiite death squads in Iraq with training and material as well as the Sunni death squads that go after the Shiites with the objective of creating as much bloodshed in Iraq as passable. They have also been supplying shaped charges and shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles to kill coalition troops. They Chant 'death to America' on a daily basis in their schools and Mosques, they continually threaten to wipe Israel off the map, they have mined the Strait of Hormuz, they publicly lynch girls for being 'disobedient', they publicly lynch boys for being homosexual, they publicly lash women for the crime of being raped, they stone women to death for infidelity, they censor their news, They beat a Canadian journalist to death because she wrote unflattering stories, they murder political dissidents, invented the suicide bomber, kidnapped British sailors and holding them hostage, kidnapping American aid workers and holding them hostage...ect, ect...

Now they are trying to build a doomsday device so Ahmadinejad can bring the 'Hidden Imam' out of his well. (Google it) THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED IN THEIR JURISDICTION.

'Where right and wrong is a matter of perspective geographically'

It is NEVER right to stone people to death for 'infidelity', to lynch children for 'disobedience' or homosexuality. It is NEVER OK to be the worlds #1 state sponsor of terrorism. It isn't OK to treat your own oeipoke like this:

www.liveleak.com/view?i=44a_1176709269

www.liveleak.com/view?i=271_1189517695

www.liveleak.com/view?i=518_1190245078

Register and watch it you coward, that is what you are sentencing the Iranians to live under.

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This is what you are saying should be allowed:Jun 11th, 2008 - 03:14:10


'cdnl3.liveleak.com/2/xyz34/2006/Nov/11/LiveLeak-dot-com-13846-stoning .jpg'

That is an Iranian woman being buried up to her waist in preparation of being stoned to death for 'infidelity'. (Note, no 'gory' picture editor) When is that ever OK? Because mohammad said it was?

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