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G8 leaders back away from definite climate targets (Roundup)

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Jun 6, 2007, 16:25 GMT


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NoharnessJun 6th, 2007 - 17:56:27

For those who have the patience to bother, here is the US 'Climate Plan':

//www.climatetechnology.gov/stratplan/final/index.htm

Be advised that it is a long dreary read about fanciful futuristic tripe. Most of it hasn't a prayer of working. It is glittery dream-ware meant to distract the various polities in this world from arriving at real solutions to our energy problems.

Given that we are talking about a group of high paid, well educated advisers to the most powerful man on the planet you have to wonder why they did not do a better job. The reason they haven't done a better job is because they are attempting to deal with non-existent problem, climate change with an anthropogenic cause, and are, therefore, striving to achieve unrealistic and unreachable goals.

One of our very real problems is that we, the United States, the EU, Australia and Japan are giving our enemies billions, probably trillions, of dollars every year to peoples who hate the very sight of us and intend us harm. We give them this money in exchange for crude oil which we should be conserving because in the long term it is entirely too valuable to waste as a fuel source.

The other very real and seldom mentioned problem is that we are poisoning ourselves by burning coal to provide ourselves with electricity.

The second problem has a very obvious answer and we have engineering solutions well in hand for it--nuclear fission power plants. We should phase out coal and replace all coal burning power plants with nuclear power plants. We should have started doing that twenty years ago, but we haven't so starting tomorrow morning would not be too soon. Once all the coal-fired plants are shutdown we should place very strict controls on what coal might be used for, ideally for nothing but the production of steel.

The first problem is somewhat less tractable but there are a sheaf of solutions available and solutions that will be available within the next five years or so. The first logical step in solving this problem is begin phasing out the use of gasoline engines in automobiles, starting tomorrow morning. We should NOT be driving anything other than diesel engines until engineers can provide us with an engine that is a more efficient user of fuel than the diesel engine. The next step would be to mandate the construction and use of diesel powered, plug-in type hybrid cars. We should also be funding research programs, on the same scale as the Apollo Project, that strives to develop better batteries and capacitors with improved energy densities.

These two steps by themselves would allow us to easily pass the President's '20-in-20' goal. Oh, and if you are worried about CO2, these two steps would drastically reduce C02 outputs as well.

The problem here is not a lack of technology. The problem here is a lack of courage and leadership on the part of our politicians. Oddly enough, they are not so terribly afraid of the Energy Companies so much as they are afraid of the Banks.

Well, I say, 'Damn the Bankers! Full speed ahead!'

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to NoharnessJun 6th, 2007 - 20:04:52

you don't know shit .so back off

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yikesJun 6th, 2007 - 20:40:11

'to NoharnessJun 6th, 2007 - 20:04:52

you don't know shit .so back off '


stupidest comment ever.

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tonny from belgiumJun 6th, 2007 - 22:53:31

It is a relief reading that some americans are able to come forward with plans to reduce carbon emission drastically.My gratitude goes to them ,at least they start to realize the horrible truth :they are being governed by the worst possible president .There is only one chance left for our children,nex time vote for a candidate willing to take the necessary measures to implement a drastic reduction of carbon.Look at it as an investment in the future of your children?It might cost some money but it is mandatory .Stop wasting money in a stupid war and face the real problem.

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to NoharnessJun 6th, 2007 - 23:08:26

we know what you did .and know you are a terrorist informer

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NoharnessJun 7th, 2007 - 00:14:26

Tonny,

And you thought I was a really bad guy, right? Well, don't relax just yet because you and are still at cross purposes and likely always will be.

Notice that I still do not support your pet theories. I am concerned about national security and public health.

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SP4: Tonney's fantasyJun 7th, 2007 - 01:26:26

By now, even the most luddite Belgian must realize that the worlds leaders believe in C02 climate change way, way less than Bill Clintons fidelity.

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FascinatingJun 7th, 2007 - 04:00:44

I have discussed this global warming with real estate developers in Hawaii and none of them are taking any stock in the rising of the oceans as affecting their investment decisions. They are buying beachfront property aggressively.

Interesting to talk to folks who have the most to lose and value the scientific consensus the least. I wonder how this affects a politicians thinking?

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peterJun 7th, 2007 - 09:05:13

Of course developers won't lose - they will have sold the developments within a year or so and the new owners will be the ones under water

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IBAALE SAMUELSep 26th, 2007 - 07:57:33

MINE IS NOT A COMMENT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRY FROMYUU SIR THAT HOW CAN I ACCESS SUPPORT FROM A PERSON LIKE YOU IN FINALISING MY STUDIES OR HOW CAN YOU HELP ME TO ACCESS ONE

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