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Russ,
My apologies. I misunderstood. Thank you for clarifying. I think you are right on the money with your assessment of Orielly and Mathews, though my analogy between you and Orielly may have gone over your head.
Here's where you are wrong. The fact that Blacks commit more crimes than whites has nothing to do with their genetics. To believe that is the definition of a being a racist. Blacks have not and do not have the same opportunities in this country as whites. I promise if the situation were reversed and whites were brought to Africa as slaves 400 years ago, today they would be the ones committing the majority of crime in Africa.
Furthermore, your focus on race and the race war that you keep alluding to is buying right into the Zionist bullshit. There are many racist Jews who think they are superior and your argument is what? “Huh uh, Whites are superior”. It’s all Bullshit. People are people. Race should have no relevance in anything.
Your constant stereotyping of the Jews this, and the Jews that undermines the truth that you have to share with the uninformed masses. I prefer Zionists or Zionist conspirators but I can tell you are happy with Jews. And that is because you are a racist. You can agree with that can’t you?
Sorry dude I aint Jewish but im sure you are convinced that anyone who disagrees with you must be. So is that how you go through life, trying to reduce everything down to race and the reasons why you are better than others? Thats pretty sad but judging by the time youve spent writting down your weird ideas of life I guess you must be kinda lonely.
Gen D Eisenhower ordered all units in the areas invovled to escort local civilians around the various death camps because he knew that people like you would try to deny it. Patton, Montgomery, 100's of senior officers and thousands of troops did as instructed. Now if I gotta choose between some hate filled nazi gas bag like you or the high command of a multi national force that had just flattened other Nazis like you, excuse me if I dont waste another breath or thought on your ideas.
To summarize we are in agreement with the major issues. The holocaust is a lie. Those that are trying to shed light on it are being imprisoned and not given a voice by the Zionist friendly media. Those with the most power, we the American People, are too busy watching American Idol to pay attention to what is really going on in the world. Most Americans don’t know any better than to see things the way they are framed by the Zionist media. Meanwhile, atrocities continue to be perpetrated in our name all around the world. But alas, the US is in decline and soon the world will wake up.
Our understandings diverge when you begin to attribute the world’s problems to racial genetics. I pointed this out in my first post. I think when you start blaming races (conveniently everybody’s but your own) for the world's problems; it undermines all the truth you are trying to share.
Goose,
I suggest that you do a little bit of research into what 'holocaust revisionists' are actually saying. It seems apparent that you believe that the holocaust is a fact that only crazy psycho's dispute. But let me tell you that you are doing yourself a disservice by not objectively listening to their questions and arguments. You may think you know and perhaps your mind is so made up that facts can't sway it. But I suggest to you that if you begin objectively researching, you will start to understand what the debate is about.
this is a good place to start
www. onethirdoftheholocaust. com
Thx for the advice Nate but afraid my closed biggoted mind, that happens to believe the majority of historians from all the different camps, is to closed for the kinda truths that these guys are selling. I watched the news reels, ive read the history from many different sides, and to me its just history. To these guys its a way of life.
Nate, race is a reality and there are very wide differences in races including
hereditary ones pertaining to disease and so forth. To say that black criminal behavior is due to slavery is not a valid argument. Whites were some of the first slaves. All peoples have been slaves and persecuted down through history at one time or another. I have been the victim of much racism from blacks and so I know how strong it is. The fact is that no black today is a slave and this idea of blacks still being unequalized in society is not correct. Blacks have their own communities, clubs, magazines and on and on. However, whites are called racists if for instance we had what was known as WET, white entertainment channel or a Miss White America contest or all whit neighborhoods.
Blacks have taken over many major cities and crime and decadence are now the order of those cities that were once nice and peaceful. It has nothing to do with slavery, just as the Jews want special treatment, now Blacks think they deserve special treatment. And it is all because the Jews promote it to underscore whitey. Jews formed and ran the NAACP and always had a Jew in the background promoting the agenda. Jews are the promoters of all hatred and liberal ideas that sicken the fabric of society, such as the homo agenda and teaching it to our kids as normal.
Blacks wear white mans clothes, drive white mans cars, live in white mans houses, speak the white mans language, worship the whit mans God.....and they hate the white man as they love our women. No Nate, race mixing is wrong and it cannot be reconciled with socialism and by all people jumbling up into one big mass. History has shown us time and again that multiculturalism never works, due to the differences in race. Societies that are productive tend to have a population that is of like peoples. Take Iceland for instance...take a look at the stats for that country. Japan is another and their crime rate is almost zero, especially the violent crime.
Blacks are predisposed to violence or else they would not do it. There is no excuse for murder and all the other activities they do that are violent. That is what the Jews want you to believe. In 47 years of equality for blacks and many advantages over whites given from the federal government, blacks are even more violent, so the social experiment has failed, just as all Jew ideas fail.
Abraham Lincoln never intended for blacks to remain in America, he fully intended to ship them home, but he was assassinated before it could begin. Blacks at the time agreed that going home to Africa was the best thing to do.
Blacks will never be happy with whites, unless they have total control of us and even then they would do just like they have in South Africa today, begin a murder spree against the new minority whites.
I have been in my thoughts where you are Nate, but time and evidence has shown the truth and there is no denying it.
Yes, I speak Jew, because it is the word they use to describe themselves and it is appropriate and points to the EXACT suspect. Goose is the true racist, in the sense of the word hate. Yes, I believe in race and so you can call me a racist, but I am different than Goose, in that mine is based on truth and on genetical evidence of nature. Goose is just a hater of anyone who will not accept his ideas and his name calling is his only debate. He is typical of what I encounter all the time from Jews and Jew supporters. They have no factual argument except for the spoon fed thousands of propaganda films JEWS make to keep the herd of cattle in line.
This whole argument is not a hate issue, it is an issue of the freedom to speak and think without being locked up for it.
Goose says it's all just history to him, then why does he support laws locking up people? Goose speaks out both ends of an empty head. If the Holocaust were true, there would be NO need for laws, it would be as evident as the atom bombs dropped on Japan. Jews fabricated the story and made it tons more than what it was. Of course no on denies Jews were brutalized and abused, but then again the Germans were made to go to war. Read the evidence of a JEW who lived in Germany as just a small sample of what I am saying. Some Jews have been honnorable and spoke the truth, but their hardcore brothers have beat the crap out of them for doing so, such as David Cole for one. Just a few weeks ago they beat a Rabbi who was at the conference in Iran. Jews will go to any links to protect this billion dollar industry named holocaust, including murdering other Jews.
Hehe dude your just a hate filled fool.
'If the Holocaust were true, there would be NO need for laws'...it is true idiot and the laws are designed for twisted minds like yours. The Jew this, the Jew that...
gotta ask you though if your right, how have they managed to keep it secret for so long? Shit we cant even abuse a few enemy combatants and get away with it, yet according to you the Jews have managed to subvert the entire history of mankind and have not left a trace? How does that work oh Russ the wise?
'Abraham Lincoln never intended for blacks to remain in America, he fully intended to ship them home.'
hehe that ones to stupid to argue about. What is it Russ, you their were you? Were you just puffing one to many the night you had that historic revelation? To make such an assisine claim as that destroys even the remotes chance of this conversation ever rising above the farsical.
Russ your just another empty headed Nazi gas bag with grandious ideas and little intelegence. Fortunatly for the world your views are not needed, asked for, or listened to. And thats all good.
Something I missed. Your argument Nate, that I am a supremacist is also flawed.
What i have tried to tell you is that white history speaks for itself. I think it is those who put us whites down as racists that have some kind of problem with the facts. the facts are that whites have a very creative history. it speaks for itself. Africa only had weaved cloth as little as 520 years ago and were very primative and would have remained that way without white intervention.
So my argument is that blacks in reality should appreciate the fact that theie lives were touched by us blue eyed devils. We brought blacks all kinds of humane things and we lifted them up in so many ways, but all they think of is slavery and how to one up whitey. Blacks sold their own people as slaves and Jews had a big hand in the slave dealing, making tons of money from it. A well known black scholar has written on this very subject. My point is that whites are not the enemy of blacks, but the Jew has used the black people to make this an all time issue, just like the Jews are doing the Germans. Didn't you see Al Sharpton talking about how his ancestors were slaves under Thurmans family. What is he doing? Of course they are pushing for reperations, just like Jews.
It is time to seperate befor the world ignites in a global race war. Germans are being forever blackmailed by Jews for what the Jews started. And as it is in America, Germanys government has sold out it's people also. These are the whites that are sorry, who would deny their own kind for title or money.
Germar Rudolf and Ernest Zundel do NOT belong in jail for thoughts and those who believe otherwise are the real haters and racists in the sense of hate.
MLK was a communist and not very Godly. I just wanted to add that as an afterthought. Many of you clowns just want to argue where you don't know what you are talking about. What is the point? You are either for freedom or you are not. Freedom means white people have rights TOO and can speak also!!
'Germans are being forever blackmailed by Jews for what the Jews started.'
Wow I didnt realise that Jews started world war two by forcing Hitler to attack Poland. How silly am i?
'Jews had a big hand in the slave dealing'
Sorry dude Arabs had a lot more to with that than the great Zionist conspiracy of which your fevered imagination blames all.
Goose, why don't you just go lay a golden egg and worship it too? I'ts about as ridiculous as your present worship of the holocause and Jews. :)
Ohh so you cant even answer a simple question is that it?
Moses, oh Moses....thy shall not worship any other golden egg except Goose. :)
Goose, I suggest you go read about the Emancipation Proclamination and Liberia.
I would also suggest you read George Washingtons Maxims and also some of Abraham Lincolns unedited writings...as well as Thomas Jefferson.
Check some black Scholars also on this subject, such as William Cooper. Cooper wrote about the Jew role in slavery fo Blacks. Farakan could probably tell you a few things too.
I believe it is page 419 in Washingtons Maxims. Don't hold me completely correct on that page, but i think it is correct. I also would add that Benjamin Franklin warned America not to allow Jews to immigrate into America because within 200 years of doing so, Jews would ruin the country. So contrary to the false history jews have placed in school textbooks, you don't know your history Goose, our Forefathers were very intent on America being a nation of whites.
The old canard about the melting pot is just that. America was diverse in white Europeans and coming together of all the best of white European man, was the key to such a great nation. Sorry to disaapoint your illusions again.
Puff-puff :)
I think it is you Goose 'DUDE' who is smoking crack or something. Your brain is a little slow to comprehend truths.
You quoting Farakan is kinda funny but my question remains and I think its pretty straight forward so ill repeat it for you.
Gotta ask you though if your right, how have they managed to keep it secret for so long? Shit we cant even abuse a few enemy combatants and get away with it, yet according to you the Jews have managed to subvert the entire history of mankind and have not left a trace? How does that work oh Russ the wise?
Oh and please refer to me as lord goose k?
I have an answer for you Lord Goose,
Several things, first the obvious. I'm sure you read the article we are all commenting on. Putting people in prison who dare tell the truth is one way 'the secret is kept'. Making sure that the megaphone of mainstream media never allows open honest discussion is another way. Remember the holocaust conferenece in Iran? David Duke was on Wolf Blitzer for like three minutes, but Wolf made sure that none of his points were given the light of day. Nobody, and I mean nobody in the mainstream media touched that story with an ounce of objectivity. All who attended that conference were simply anti-semitic holocaust deniers that said the holocaust never happened. Not even a smidgen of the revisionist argument was allowed for mainstream consumption. WWII is synonymous with the Nazi's who killed six million Jews. By the time kids are out of highschool in America, this is just a fact that is beyond debate. To think of Hitler other than a Satanic psychopath is blasphemous. This is just engrained in our culture. And, I would suggest all western cultures. Like I said Lord Goose, first listen to the 'revisionist' arguments and questions, then you will have a better understanding of the issues...
Goose, I can answer your questions. It was never a total secret, patriots always knew. People like Patton was no Jew lover. The Kennedys knew, McCarthy knew and I could go on and on. Jew murdered President John F. Kennedy and reallly asserted their covert power in our government. Read Ruby's transcript to the Warren commission, which was also loaded with 9 Jews. Rubys statements are very revealing about the takeover of power. However, mainstream Americans were kept in the dark due to the fact that Jews already owned most of the major media and book publishing industry. Patriot writings always disclosed these so called secrets and Goose, it has only been 62 years and revisionism has been around for over half of it. The term Holocaust came into play later, not right after the war. Ike was a Kike and the Mafia was Meyer Lansky (JEW) and others who were connected to him were also Jews. Think about the Jew Rosenberhgs who gave the atomic secrets to the Russians. America's FBI was formed from the old secret service around the 1920's and many Russian commie Jews wer brought in.
FDR was the biggest Jew puppet and sold America down the drain. All of thes names and the money and power associated with them, is how they kept the truth from the masses of the American public. There has always been people in place since the first accusation of a holocaust, that deny such stupidy as a program of extermination. The Red Cross, the Church and loads of others refute any holocaust. It is no secret and it never was. it is a hoax and built up lie.
YES, jews suffered, but they started it and their leaders made it happen. Hitler had no choice except to protect his nation from communism and he feared what he saw in Russia and the Jew Bolshevik takeover there in 1917. The real truth is that 45-50 million white people died, Brother against Brother....for Jew lies. Hitler wanted no war with Britain or France and he tried repeatedly to get that point across. None of these truths matter to Jew tyrants and those who deny all the facts surrounding the war.
Jews are lying to you now and it is easy for them to do it to you who are gullible fools, but for those of us who can see, we are not fooled by their agenda and the smole and mirrors. Germanys government is nothing but an arm of Israel. No one should go to jail for opinions. Jews have proven over and over that they are disloyal to their host nation and the people who allow them in. At this very moment ADL (Jews) are wotking on Hate crime legislation to stop Americans from being able to speak freely. What is their excuse and who is it GOOSE? JEWS, that's who!!!
Goose, you need to read for yourself. Here is a site you can get a little information on the Hitler you have never heard about and his contributions. Many of them even shocked me. I had no idea of his creative genuis in so many areas. I can tell you this, there is no law and no country that will keep the memory down and at some point truth will rise and destroy all of these lies. Only then can Germany and the world really be free. The truth is the reason to live and if along the way we encounter struggle, then we should face it with honor, like Zundel and so many others. To lock up people tio silence truth is WRONG and The German government knows they are wrong and the Jews know it too. When are Jew going to admit their genocide of the Palestinians and their evil role in history? Can you answer me that Goose?
go to 'adolfthegreat' dot com of course. This site refused my link, but allowed yours nate.
Well said Nate...your words to Goose!!!
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