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Churchill never mentioned the holocaust...
'None has suffered more cruelly than the Jew the unspeakable evils wrought upon the bodies and spirits of men by Hitler and his vile regime. The Jew bore the brunt of the Nazi's first onslaught upon the citadels of freedom and human dignity. He has borne and continued to bear a burden that might have seen beyond endurance. He has not allowed it to break his spirit; he has never lost the will to resist. Assuredly in the day of victory the Jew's suffering and his part in the struggle will not be forgotten.' W.S.Churchill Nov 1941
Patton never spoke about the holocaust
'It seemed that Patton had become so angry at what he had seen in the camp that he scooted into the nearest major town, Weimar, broke the mayor of the town out, and told him he wanted every citizen up the next morning, ready to march to through Buchenwald so as to see what the German people were responsible for. The engineers were not to bury the dead until after the grand tour by the German townspeople.'
The Church never spoke about the holocaust
Pope Pius XII's (1876-1958) actions during the Holocaust remain controversial. For much of the war, he maintained a public front of indifference and remained silent while German atrocities were committed. He refused pleas for help on the grounds of neutrality, while making statements condemning injustices in general. Privately, he sheltered a small number of Jews and spoke to a few select officials, encouraging them to help the Jews.
Russ your posts are beyond stupid, you my friend are an ignorant Nazi pig with the brains of a dead rat. Go jack off to pics of Hitler or something will ya pok chop.
“From your words attacking me and my own character, without proof, shows us who the real hater and bigot is.”
I don’t hate you, I think you are disgusting, but I don’t hate you. You are not big enough to hate. During all of this nonsense from all of your pseudonyms you have asked a million and one questions which, time permitting I have patiently dealt with.
“You are not reinforcing the holocaust fraud story, you are only attacking me and smearing me.”
Quite frankly I do not need to reinforce anything. Obviously you are not going to admit anything other then what you insist on believing. I and many other people know better.
“Churchill spoke nothing of any holocause.”
The word “holocaust” wasn’t widely used to describe the Nazi genocide of the Jews until the ‘70s. So no, you wont find the contemporary figures using the word holocaust. You will find them referring to it using other words:
'None has suffered more cruelly than the Jew the unspeakable evils wrought on the bodies and spirits of men by Hitler and his vile regime' – Churchill
“Patton never spoke of any holocause.”
Patton was killed in a car accident shortly after the war and didn’t have time to write a complete memoir, still: April 4th that Generals Eisenhower, Bradley and Patton were brought to the camp by jeep after flying into Gotha in order to see the first liberated German concentration camp discovered during World War II. (Ohrdruf Concentration Camp) General Eisenhower demanded that we round up the Ohrdruf citizens led by the town mayor and his wife to view the killing field. After some period of time the generals returned to their headquarters to organize several units to tour this camp.
Patton sent for photographers 'to get the horrid details.'
Here is a photo:
www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Buchenwald/Buchenwald01.jpg
“American soldiers were ordered to go down to Weimar and bring back German citizens to bear witness to the Nazi atrocities in the camp. General Patton wrote that the number of Weimar citizens who were forced to see the camp was 1,500, although other accounts say it was 2,000.”
'When Eisenhower left, Patton brought the mayor of Ohrdruf and his wife to the camp to see for themselves what they undoubtedly already knew. (When they were off duty, the guards would come into town to 'brag, womanize and drink,' notes Timmer, 'so how couldn't townspeople know?') Then Patton ordered the mayor, his wife and all the other able-bodied townsfolk to come back the next day and dig individual graves for the dead prisoners.
...That night, the mayor and his wife hanged themselves.
“The Red Cross never said there was a holocause.”
“The Red Cross handed over 60,000 pages of World War II-era documents to Israel on Tuesday and a top official acknowledged the organization's ``moral failure'' in keeping silent while the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.
``Very clearly, the ICRC's activities with regard to the Holocaust are sensed as a moral failure,'' said George Willemin, director of archives for the Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross.
``The ICRC admits - yes - that it has kept silent with regard to the Holocaust, and I would say that this is the heart of the moral failure,'' he added.
The Red Cross has in the past apologized for ``all possible omissions and mistakes made'' during the war years, but Willemin's statement was the most explicit acknowledgment by a Red Cross official that the organization could and should have done more.
The documents include reports from field workers about mass deportations and killings of Jews, rulings by the organization and its governing bodies, orders to field workers, and correspondence with Nazi Germany and the Allied governments.
The release of the documents raises anew the question of whether the Red Cross should have made public what it knew about the Holocaust and spoken out against it.
Red Cross officials have said that if they had done so, the Nazis would have retaliated by stopping the organization from helping Allied prisoners of war.
Here, from the Red Cross.
www.redcross.org/services/intl/holotrace/9-29-00.html
“The Church never saw any holocause.”
The Roman Catholic Church formally apologized Monday for failing to take more decisive action in challenging the Nazi regime during World War II to stop the extermination of more than 6 million Jews.
Pope John Paul II, in a preface to the landmark publication entitled 'We Remember: A Reflection on the Shoah,' expressed hope that the historic declaration of repentance by the Vatican about Catholic shortcomings in dealing with the Holocaust 'will indeed help to heal the wounds of past misunderstandings and injustices.'
All this took about 10 minutes to come up with, you are wrong and that fact is easily verifiable. What you have done is taken a few things out of context and tried to toss them against the enormous weight of evidence that is out there. Asking me to “show” you whatever is a safe bet for you because you know that I am not about to fly over to whatever hell hole you are in and take you by the hand to a death camp. It is a cop out. They exist; go see for your self. I did.
As I have said before, I have no doubt this or anything else will have any impact on you because you are ape-crap crazy. But in addition to that you are lazy as hell because you toss these things out even though they are provably wrong.
“You are just anopther[sic] Jew rable[sic] rouser, who cannot ...I repeat cannot prove mass extermination by gassing ever took place.”
At this point I think it is up to you to prove that mass extermination, by whatever means, didn’t take place. If you cannot do it in the country you are in, maybe you shouldn’t lecture others about their civil rights and freedoms. If you cannot do it elsewhere, maybe you are wrong.
“I use Russ because it is a name. What is yours JC?”
How did you guess?
So you didn’t use “Russ” in order to escape any consequences of your racism and bigotry? One would think that with someone who is as passionate as you are about Holocaust denial and who regards himself as so well informed, one would think that you would want to slap your name all over your writings in order to take on this “jew system” that wants to “control how you think”. Not hide behind Russ or Claudette, Mildred Wogbash, CIA, et al?
Are you afraid that if someone shines the light on you “Russ” that you might have to crawl back under your rock? Why don’t you have the courage of your convictions like Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zuendel? They may be reprehensible bigots, but at least they have the grapes to stand up and be counted.
Churchills memoirs have no reference to gas chambers.
Patton wanted people to see the destruction of war, does that indicate gas chambers.
The church did not speak of any gas chambers whilr the war was going on.
Goose, you still refuse to answer on any of the points I published on this site.
Are all of these scholars and historians, men of science and so many everyday people....just as you put it 'hateful nazis and liars'?
Are these Jews like Freedman just liars?
If so, then what was their point? Why have they spent their money, risked their reputation and the possibility of jail, been beaten and harrassed, slandered and accused.....just to hurt Jews?
Is that what you think Goose?
I is not I that is the idiot. My IQ was tested 4 years ago as '124', so I am hardly a wack job. From your and your buddies posts on this forum, it is very evident who hates and who is really a threat to society.
I take the threats as very real and I know you people as I see and you show yourself to be. That is violent and not willing to debate the actual facts.
You must make laws to protect this thing.
I see you read none of Freedmans words and he showed you why the war broke out.
I think you would have despised Jews at that time also, if you were a non Jew.
You Jews care for no one and you appear, from all contact I have ever had with Jews, to be exactly what you accuse others of being 'hateful and violent, ignorant and uncompromising'!
Your world revolves around this status symbol, the new golden calf to worship. But now you are demanding that everyone worship it, not just the Isralites.
You people are twisted and mentally deranged and your words prove it. No wonder the Germans and the Russians rose against you. You have only strengthened my argument.
I have no hate, but I am determined to live in peace and away from the likes of you and those so easily fooled by you.
If You don't believe Harvard documents about Ike, then what more can I tell you?
You don't want truth, you want only to save this idol worship and to keep the cash and sympathy flowing in from the world.
The bad news is that the world is on to you. I have tried to save you and help you people, but you refuse to budge and you only wish to do me as you done the Germans and will eventually do to all Gentiles, if not stopped.
Russ
'You lie and talk shit but you dont offer any real evidence ezcept for hatred and that dosnt win arguments'
Again, Goose says in a sentence what it took me 15 minutes of wasted time to type out.
Russ shut the hell up, your just a nazi moron that cant stand up to truth and like all your kind you dont need proof you need a bullet to the back of your fat porky neck.
I knew you were a traitor JC.
A sneaky snake and part of the problem.
I am sure you can rely on your evidence that you obtain by torturing and murdering individuals.
What is your answer on Freedman? You guys still refuse to say a word about him.
All of your rantings are the same as before, nothing new...but it still does not prove mass exterminations by gassing.
Not one person has ever denied brutality or such things as you like to hype up
to emotionalize your response. We all know that mistreatment was occuring, just as it did in all camps and in all wars.
How does Jew suffering overshadow 50 million white peoples deaths in a war started by Jews?
You take no responsibility for anything, nothing, nada, zilch!!
You have shown nothing to me that I cannot go and get to show you, but of course you refuse the other sides evidence, so I don't waste my time.
As for those other posters, don't blame me for the vile outbursts of your
soulmates and coreligionists of evil...who make threats and talk trash.
You people dare to accuse me of hate?
Look at your words. You show the world who is filled with hate.
This is not about debating facts, it is about your protection at any cost
of your grand illusion.
The bullet to the back of the head is what you Jews done to so many Russians after you raped that country, right before you went on in to Germany.
You people have proven exactly what I said. The hate is all FROM YOU!!!
It is the thanks you give all non Jews!!!!
I remember when I used to believe the lies.
But I gotta tell you, you Jews have sure convinced me that the revisionists
are correct. You have also shown me the magnatude of your evil.
The Golden calf is melting and the day is coming when the truth will
be with us all.
People like you Goose and Mildred, JC and you other terrorists, are a fine example of all that is wrong with huanity.
In your sick world, everyone wears little boots and has a can of Zyklon B
just waiting for you. It is you people as I stated in the beginning, who are mentally ill and repulsive to all decent thinking people.
You are just like a bunch of gangbangers, totally ignorant and totally
without any sense of moral responsibility.
Russ
'I is not I that is the idiot. My IQ was tested 4 years ago as '124'.'
Dude dont you know thats practically retarded.
'Patton never mentioned the holocaust.'
Hahahaha wow how stupid is that. All you gotta do is use google.
Hehe...to stupid..IQ 124 opps.
Russ
'Please show me of any plan for extermination.'
hahaha Ever here of the Wansee conference? Naw, your to fat an stupid to actually read.
Russ
'YES, jews suffered, but they started it (ww2)'
hahaha hes talking about WW2, retard(IQ 124) thinks the Jews started it...to funny pork chop.
All you have to do is go to jewwatch to bask in all your evil....Goose.
You can see Ikes family lines traced.
He (IKE) murdered 1.2 million Germans Goose, so I see why you love him so.
“”I knew you were a traitor JC.”
I am one of the most loyal people I know.
“A sneaky snake and part of the problem.”
You hurt my feelings.
“What is your answer on Freedman? You guys still refuse to say a word about him.”
I didn’t read it… What is the point?
“All of your rantings are the same as before, nothing new...but it still does not prove mass exterminations by gassing.”
If I were to some how go back in time and sitting you down in font of the Einsatzgruppen with a deck chair and a lemonade as they shot their way through east european Jewry you would still moan on about “exterminations by gassing”… Doesn’t prove that…
Here, I know it isn’t proof because I am short on time machines, even if I were I wouldn’t waste the trip on your idiocy:
“Gas chambers were used in the Nazi Third Reich during the 1930s and 1940s as part of the so-called 'public euthanasia program' aimed at eliminating physically and intellectually disabled people, and later the mentally ill. At that time, the preferred gas was carbon monoxide, often provided by the exhaust gas of cars or trucks or army tanks.
Later, during the Holocaust, gas chambers were modified and enhanced to accept even larger groups as part of the Nazi policy of genocide against Jews, and others[citation needed]. In January or February, 1940, 250 Roma children from Brno in the Buchenwald concentration camp were used as guinea pigs for testing the Zyklon B (hydrogen cyanide absorbed into various solid substrates). On September 3, 1941, 600 Soviet POWs were gassed with Zyklon B at Auschwitz camp I; this was the first experiment with the gas at Auschwitz.
Carbon monoxide was also used in large purpose-built gas chambers. The gas was provided by petrol engines (detailed in the Gerstein Report).[6] Nazi gas chambers in mobile vans and at least eight concentration camps (see also extermination camp) were used to kill several million people between 1941 and 1945. Some stationary gas chambers could kill 2,500 people at once. Numerous sources record the use of gas chambers in the Holocaust, including the direct testimony of Rudolf Höß, Commandant of the Auschwitz concentration camp.
The gas chambers were dismantled when Soviet troops got close, except at Dachau, Sachsenhausen, and Majdanek. The gas chamber at Auschwitz I was reconstructed after the war as a memorial, but without a door in its doorway and without the wall that originally separated the gas chamber from a washroom. The door that had been added when the gas chamber was converted into an air raid shelter was left intact. – Wikipedia
Is that Proof? Of course not… No matter what is offered, short of the time machine you are going to believe what you want to.
“We all know that mistreatment was occuring[sic], just as it did in all camps and in all wars.”
That is why 6 million German POW’s were murdered in the infamous Camp Clinton gas chambers.
“How does Jew suffering overshadow 50 million white peoples deaths in a war started by Jews?”
Gee, Hitler was a Jew? Who knew?
“You take no responsibility for anything, nothing, nada, zilch!!”
Not even born then lunatic.
“You have shown nothing to me that I cannot go and get to show you,”
You didn’t answer my question: Do you use the pseudonym “Russ” in order to escape any consequences of your racism and bigotry? One would think that with someone who is as passionate as you are about Holocaust denial and who regards himself as so well informed, one would think that you would want to slap your name all over your writings in order to take on this “jew system” that wants to “control how you think”.
Russ
'I have been the victim of much racism from blacks'
hehehe Ohh I wonder why...? hahaha
Russ
' but I don't believe in race mixing.
That is not hate Nate, it's just the way I believe and it is what nature intended.'
hehe i think its also what Adolf intended pork boy. Still wondering why blacks like to kick the shit out of your fat bloated butt? IQ 124, dude you should never admitted that.
War has a reason and a motive, so that is the reasoning of placing
Freedman into the evidence on this. Freedman had first hand knowledge
and he was also a Jew, so you cannot claim anti-semitism about his words.
If you don't read it, then your arguments are invalid.
Read Freedman and answer my questions, then I will answer yours.
Plese do tell me why this man would waste so much of his wealth and time
pleading against one sided history and give me your opinion on Freedmans
statements?
“In your sick world, everyone wears little boots and has a can of Zyklon B just waiting for you.”
Not at all. Nor will they be allowed to. Nothing sick about that IMHO.
“It is you people as I stated in the beginning, who are mentally ill and repulsive to all decent thinking people.”
That is a pretty inventive thing that you like to do. Take what people say to you and parrot it back. No wonder you consider yourself in the master race, you and your 124 IQ. The whole cut and paste comments directed at you and regurgitate them back tactic is brilliant.
'IQ 124, dude you should never admitted that.'
I wonder if they gave him a helmet so he wouldn't hurt himself.
Russ IQ 124 (snigger)
'A slow white genocide is the basic aim of the Jews..'
Thats gotta be one hell of a slow genocide considering the Jewish pop is about 6.5 M and non jewish whites are up in the 100's of millions...heheh see i told you hes a dickhead but I didnt realise hes proud of being 'special'...hehe
The parrots are you two terrorists.
I still wait for the answer, not regurgitated crap from the Simon Criesandfalls center.
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