Dutch academic: don't ban Koran, protect Islam critics

Ban the krapran and protect the critics.Aug 11th, 2007 - 15:22:18

It is time to forcibly deport all muslims back to their ancestral lands.
Just lets try to do it inside a year or less.

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Wilders is Right!Aug 11th, 2007 - 18:06:02

Wilders is right. The Koran clearly constitutes hate speech, and we know what European nations can do to those convicted of hate speech.

Check out this frightening site:

The Truth About Islam
islamwatchers [dot] blogspot [dot] com

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Larry HouleAug 12th, 2007 - 06:02:10

Islam: An Immoral Bankrupt Idealogy

This article of discussion on Ban The Koran misses the main point. All violence in The Koran is not the teachings of God. All references in the Koran to war, terror, violence are not the words of God. There can never be any justification in any religious book to violence. Violence in religion is like trying to mix oil with water. A single match can ignite the whole mixture with tragic consequences.

Waging war in the name of God and to the greater glory of God to spread Islam as the word of God is an obscenity against God himself. All teachings in the Koran are evil and an obscenity against everything God stands for. All Muslim scholars who do not renounce, and denounce all violence in the Koran WITHOUT EQUIVATION are by leaving these violent and abhorrent teachings in the Koran, in effect saying that these teachings are NORMAL. They are acquiescing to evil. Once you accommodate evil, you lose your moral center and become willingly or unwillingly an accomplice to evil. You cannot be a Good Muslim – pray 5 times a day etc – and ignore the evil – the moral black hole that lies at very the heart of Islam.

Man’s natural concept of God, is a conception of Peace and Love, Goodness and Forgiveness, an All Wise, All Loving God for all mankind. All human beings are created in the image of God. All mankind is created equal and all their lives are precious and sacred to God. As the Omniscient Omnipotent Glorious Exalted Creator - the creator of the universe and all living things - God is PERFECT.

As PERFECTION, God is the embodiment of All Peace and Love. War and violence are abhorrent to God – an obscenity to the intelligence He bestowed on mankind.
God never lead an army into battle, changed the weather allowing (His) side to win or any other form of divine intervention etc. There is no - 'His' side”. For God there are no believers or unbelievers. No one true religion.

If God killed only one human being (or any other alien life form throughout the universe who exercises free will) then God is a murderer and God is no longer God. If God thru any teaching incited violence that lead to the death of only one human being then God would be a accomplice to murder and no longer God.

All teachings in the Koran of violence, of war are evil and stand against God Himself.

Islam is a morally bankrupt criminal ideology.

Following are some of the criminal acts in the Koran that are sanctioned by God – that are not a sin or violation of the laws of God but are THE LAWS OF GOD.

1. Killing, murder, slaughter of all infidels that have not converted to Islam.

2. Killing, murder, slaughter of all apostates of Islam.

3. Islam orders death for Muslims and possible death for non-Muslim critics of
Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.

4. Muslims deserve death for doing any of the following (Reliance of the Traveler pp. 597—98, o8.7): (1) Reviling Allah or his Messenger; (2) being sarcastic about 'Allah's name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat'; (3) denying any verse of the Quran or 'anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it'; (4) holding that 'any of Allah's messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent'; (5) reviling the religion of Islam; (6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law; (7) denying that Allah intended 'the Prophet's message . . . to be the religion followed by the entire world.'

5. Islam allows the ownership of slaves – it is a law of God.

6. God permits the raping of female slaves. Indeed in Islam - rape is not a sexual weapon – it is a weapon of war. Having murdered the woman’s man, Muslims can now - sanctioned by the law of God complete their final humiliation and domination of her body.

7. God sanctions the seizing, looting and pillaging of property of murdered infidels.

8. God demands a share of the proceeds realized from the sale of women and children and looted property. It is the law of God.

9. God condemns most Muslim women upon their death to the fires of hell.

10. The God depicted in the Koran is no ordinary god. He is the greatest slut master of the entire universe. God has created a deviant sexual paradise filled with virgins with big breasts and big eyes. These virgins re- generate as virgins every time a believer has sex with them. These righteous Muslim killers and murderers of God are blessed with eternal hard-ons. They are permitted by God to engage in all forms of orgies, group sex, and sexual depravity.

12. God permits the following crimes to be committed in His name and greater glory. (1) Women and children are enslaved. They can either be sold, or the Muslims may 'marry' the women, since their marriages are automatically annulled upon their capture. (2) Muslims may have sex with slave women. Ali, Muhammad's cousin and son—in—law, did this. (3) Women and children must not be killed during war, unless this happens in a nighttime raid when visibility was low. Not as an act of mercy but as a commercial decision. They are money and sex on the hoof. (4) Old men and monks could be killed. (5) A captured enemy of war could be killed, enslaved, ransomed for money or an exchange, freely released, or beaten. One time Muhammad even tortured a citizen of the city of Khaybar in order to extract information about where the wealth of the city was hidden. (6) Enemy men who converted could keep their property and small children. This law is so excessive that it amounts to forced conversion. Only the strongest of the strong could resist this coercion and remain a non—Muslim. (7) Civilian property may be confiscated. (8) Civilian homes may be destroyed. (9) Civilian fruit trees may be destroyed. (10) Pagan Arabs had to convert or die. This does not allow for the freedom of religion or conscience. (11) People of the Book (Jews and Christians) had three options (Sura 9:29): fight and die; convert and pay a forced 'charity' or zakat tax; or keep their Biblical faith and pay a jizya or poll tax. The last two options mean that this immoral money flows into the Islamic treasury, to fund Muhammad’s jihadist army so why would Muhammad receive a revelation from God to dry up this money flow?

13. God rewards suicide bombers and other killers and murderers Islamic martyrdom which guarantees Paradise to those who 'kill and are killed' for Allah.

14 All unbelievers are to be sentenced to Hell for all eternity.

15. Murder is only wrong if the victim is a fellow Muslim.

16. God teaches that women are fields to be used by men as they will.

17. God teaches that women are worth one half of a man.

18. God sanctions men to beat their disobedient wives.

19. God does not allow Muslims to be friends with the infidels.

20. God sanctions that Muslims must disown family members who reject Islam.

21. Wives and children of Muslims are their enemies.

22. Thieves have their hands cut off.

23. God ordered that all prisoners of war must be killed until all Arabia was conquered for Islam.

24. God sent the Angel Gabriel with his merry band of warrior Angels to bring war, death and destruction to the enemies of Islam.

25. God created a law allowing Muhammad to marry his adopted son’s wife. This law applied to all Muslim men.

26. God created a law abolishing adoption.

27. God created a law allowing Muhammad to rape slave women.

28. God created a law allowing Muhammad to possess more then 4 wives.

These are just some of the criminal teachings of God. Of course, these are not the teachings of any God. No God who is God would ever teach the evil and criminality of the Koran. These are the teachings of Muhammad. The God of the Koran never existed. He was created by Muhammad. Muhammad was God.

THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD

In order for the Koran to be the divine word of God - every word, every teaching must be PERFECT. Since God is PERFECT every word, every teaching of God – A PERFECT GOD must be PERFECT. God cannot have some PERFECT teachings and other teachings that are IMPERFECT. In order to be the divine word of God, the Quran must be a work of PERFECTION – the PERFECT word/teachings of a PERFECT GOD. All teachings in the Koran and all Islamic texts (written or verbal) that are not PERFECT – that are not PERFECTION are not the teachings of God - A PERFECT GOD but the teachings of man – the teachings of Muhammad – The ANTI - God.

This means that all teachings recorded in the Koran and all other Islamic texts, revelations, writings, sayings, fatwa’s of murder, killing, death and destruction, violence, hate, violent jihad, terrorism, torture, brutality, savagery, maiming, wife beating, inferiority of woman, women as instruments of sexual pleasure in paradise, honor killings, stoning, cutting off limbs, child sex, sharia law, bigotry, intolerance, extortion, slavery, mutilations, looting, pillaging, slavery, inequality of infidels, inequality of any human being, that infidels can be murdered and their property stolen as a holy duty, that Muslims who renounce Islam can be killed, that Muslims (or anyone) who challenge the teachings of Islam can be murdered, etc are evil and irrational AND NOT THE PERFECT TEACHINGS OF GOD – A PERFECT GOD – AN GOD OF ALL PURE LOVE AND PEACE – BUT THE TEACHINGS OF THE ANTI-GOD – THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD

No God who is God would ever preach that killing and murdering of any human being in his name will be rewarded by accession to Paradise. You cannot climb to heaven on the corpses of the murdered. No God who is God would ever create a depraved Paradise full of big breasted, sexual nymphs for suicide bombers, terrorists, murderers to molest for all eternity. If God commanded that infidels (or any other human being) be killed then he would be irrational and evil and no longer PERFECT - no longer God. If any teaching of God incites violence that leads to the killing of any human being then God is an accomplice to murder and therefore no longer God. To have God go to war on behalf of His religion and believers is an obscenity and a very great sin against God. To have god send angels into battle as instruments of war, death and destruction is an obscenity against God. To record in a so called Holy Book – the Koran - teachings of the rules of war, slavery, looting, pillaging, hate, terror is a very great evil. Just declaring that such evil teachings in the Koran are the divine word of God is evil incarnate and an obscenity against everything God stands for – a blasphemy against God himself. KILLING, MURDER, SLAUGHTER, LOOTING ARE ALL CRIMES TO ALL NORMAL RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS. MURDER IS NOT A MULTI CULTURAL DIFFERENCE. RELIGION IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEST OF MANKIND NOT THE WORST.

Therefore not one word of the Koran is the word/teachings of GOD.

NOT ONE WORD IN THE KORAN OR ANY OTHER ISLAMIC TEXT IS FROM GOD. NO GOD WHO IS TRULY GOD WOULD EVER SPEW SUCH PURE HATRED AND INTOLERANCE. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A RELIGION OF WAR, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH TEACHINGS OF MURDER, TORTURE, AND CRUELTY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER SANCTION MURDERING PEOPLE AND THEN STEALING THEIR PROPERTY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER ALLOW ANY HUMAN BEING TO BE THE SLAVE OF ANOTHER. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT WOMEN AND CHILDREN CAN BE SOLD INTO SLAVERY AS PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMAND THE PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY, LOOTING AND PILLAGING. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THE RAPE OF SLAVE WOMEN. AGAIN AS STATED ABOVE - NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT INFIDELS CAN BE MURDERED AS A HOLY DUTY, THAT MUSLIMS WHO RENOUNCE ISLAM CAN BE KILLED, THAT MUSLIMS (OR ANYONE) WHO CHALLENGE THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN BE MURDERED. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH THAT KILLING AND MURDERING OF ANY HUMAN BEING IN HIS NAME WILL BE REWARDED BY ACCESSION TO PARADISE. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A SEXUAL PARADISE OF BIG BREASTED NYMPHS FOR SUICIDE BOMBERS, TERRORISTS, MURDERERS TO MOLEST FOR ALL ETERNITY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMONIZE AND SUBROGATE WOMEN AND MAKE THEM IMFERIOR TO MEN. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER SEND AN EVIL, CRIMINAL LIKE MUHAMMAD AS HIS PROPHET TO CREATE A RELIGION TO TERRORIZE MANKIND. THE KORAN IS THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD - THE TEACHINGS OF THE ANTI-ALLAH.

By
Larry houle
www.godofreason.com
intermedusa@yahoo.com

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SP4: Larry...babe!Aug 12th, 2007 - 16:09:14

Try Brevity.

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SP4: 1984 in HollandAug 12th, 2007 - 16:10:19

Being prosecuted for speech...banning books....quite a totalitarian regieme ya got there.

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saad ahmedJan 22nd, 2009 - 17:19:22

I am deeply disturbed by your analysis of the koran I am a muslim pakistani and though I dont say that I am some foremost authority on the subject I can say that after studying the teachings of the koran for 12 years I can declare with all confidence that every point mentioned in your so called list of laws of God is a profound misinterpretations of the teachings of Koran. right now more than 2 billion people on the planet are following this religion and out of those 2 billion you pick up a handful of terrorist,observe them and relate there actions forcefully i must say with the teachings of koran

.first of all God does not talk about the killings of all nonmuslims,in certain verses of Koran God specifically points out towards certain tribes of Arabia which did evil and caused pain to the muslims who stopped them from there evils they are the tribes being mentioned over there and such people shall forever exist even today there are nations that pose extreme hostility towards muslims so koran says be on guard dont go about making friendships with every nonmuslim you meet there have always been a great number of great kings ,dictators ,world leaders who have abhorred muslims like hitler abhorred the jews we have to be alert because there is a certain being on loose Called the ....'SATAN'...
Another very important thing you miss is that Islam strongly denounces the killing of women and children please dont give me refrences of any terrorist activities over here ,a terrorist kills women and children not a true muslim Mujahid
Islam is not a sexist religion it does not hate women .How come you always seem to forget keeping in account every verse that tells how terribly men shall be punished in hell if they mistreat women on Earth
go please check them as well you will find many
Koran only says one thing that women in terms of the share of property should inherit on half of that of men because it makes sure that the major share of property belonging to a certain family stays init females when inherit too much property ultimately take it away with them and thus through her her husband may claim it as well and the deceased most definitely will not approve of such a notion that his/her hard earned money should go to someone else other then his/her children.We all die hoping that our family's royalties would stay with the family's name forever dont we.
God says that on the day of judgement he will call upon every person by calling him by his/her mothers name for example if my name is saad ahmed and my father's gulzar ahmed on the day of judgement I will be called saad fouzia because fouzia is the name of my mother paying to all mothers a classic tribute. Still emphasizing on this fact God yet again says that paradise only exists in the feet of your mother so care for her beyond relent.further more i would like to point out that there is nothing wrong with giving a warning if God says that more women shall burn in hell then men then most definitely He is trying to say that satan has found a weakness in the feminine sex which they could'nt and not even try to protect from his knowledge .Koran is not comparing men and women over here to insult women it is telling women that kill your idiosyncrasies like malicious gossip and back biting before it is too late.Koran says to you that you can keep a slave only if you treat him with compassion and if you set him free you will be among the heavens beloved remenber it says dont be the reason of your slaves grief or God will punish you
you can adopt a child in Islam but the thing is your child ultimately remains your brother or sister and that settles the Prophet's marriage .The adopted child will not automatically inherit your assets you have to pass them over to him as a gift in your life time or after death he gets one third of your assets by your will .You can love your adopted child like your son or daughter but he or she in the eyes of God are like your brothers or sisters
In heaven you dont have aids etc, in heaven you dont multiply by having sex ,in the heavens things like having sex and drinking wine are not moral evils because heaven is not like the society that you live in now it can not be tainted by an act of making love really does not matter how many times you do it in the heaven there is no death no crime no holliganism we all over there get more then we can possibly ask for and no one ever gets upset or sick sex is not simply something as we look at it today from a dogmatic point of view thinking that sex is a mere result of human lust but sex in reality has a much bigger implication remember that all holy prophets except Jesus were born after the result of sex.

In Islam you cannot marry again without the permission of your first wife if she says no that means you cant marry .Prophet Mohammeds case was an exception in which he married more then 4 times to those women who were in dire need of a male partner to make there every day life more dignified .In islam there is a very strict condition placed on man who keep multiple wives which is that you have to give them an equal status which in turn is very difficuly most of the times and if the men does not succeed in doing so he is punishable by law
All his life Prophet Mohammed has given lessons of love ,patience ,restrain from foul deeds and now a bunch of terrorism are bent upon destroying that image well they cannot and they never will because Prophet Mohammed gave the world so many reasons to love and respect him that you cannot erode the glory of his name ever .The glory of the muslim world is not the only thing that glorifies the name of Mohammed ,the muslims may be a fallen nation now which is mostly because they have stopped listening to the koran but soon they will and the world shall see

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