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SP4: Which dick said the cold war is over?Jan 21st, 2007 - 23:14:50

Who was the dumb son-of-a-* that said it?

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Patrick ErnestJan 21st, 2007 - 23:38:51

The defense industry and the companies tied to them need business to report corporate profit. The 401k retirement system requires stock profits for Americans to retire on. If we get out of the Middle East the defense industries have got to make money somewhere. The Chinese have now given them a source to keep the defense industry corporate profits rolling in. And we Americans keep giving the Chinese money to support their military by letting the Wal-Mart model dictate consumer spending.

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Patirck, take off the tinfoil hatJan 22nd, 2007 - 00:03:43

Now we are to believe that walmart has fueled the cold war? What's next, aliens?

Newsflash...the cold war never ended. The marxists are really monarchists in charge of China. Trade, which you so hate, has actually got them hemmed in, because they need it worse than we do.

The so-called military industrial complex was a giant hoax by the left. They would rather do something else, but are needed, so they are paid huge incentives to stay in the busness.

Companies like Boeing were actually pimped on by the left (Clintons, chinese outsourcing) and then attacked by republicans like McCain, for their indescrections (767 refueler). The Clintons, fed by chinese campaign money, greenlighed MFN for China, GATT, Nafta, WTO, etc.


Sorry to ruin your party, but Walmart is the least of your problems. By the way, Hillary Clinton once sat on Walmart's board.

SP4

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Patrick ErnestJan 22nd, 2007 - 00:59:41

The individual that needs to wake up is the one that does not understand that the Chinese are taking over this country economically. They are doing it through being the major supplier of goods to this country. The business model of Wal-Mart, beginning in the 1990's was to increase profits through selling cheap Chinese goods. The need by the American worker through stagnant wages and the high cost of health care premiums brought them in droves to Wal-Mart. The buying of these Chinese goods have closed American factories as the competing manufactors and retailers followed Wal-Mart to Asia. The Chinese have been building factories and proping up their low cost labor to corner the American markets. The Bush adminstration has been in power for the last six years. In this time period the Chinese economic machine has increased vastly through American dollars. The Chinese and India economies are one of the best investment for the stock investor. I made the most money for my 401k from the international funds. The American consumer who buys Chinese made goods is supporting the Chinese military. The building of a misssle defense system to protect us from the Chinese is a protection system against American consumer spending. Wal-Mart has nothing to do with starting the 'Cold War'. There is no 'cold War' there is a economic war and the Chinese are winning big time. The USSR's militarty power fell because of economics, the west was able to out spend them. Who needs to wake up? All Americans.

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fotoniosJan 22nd, 2007 - 16:15:40

in this day and age everybody especially the ones in power are still thinking in terms of millitary power,arms,weapons,armies,and so on....
i think its all a big trap,the chinese got it right!, they don't invest in weapons of imperialistic style wars, only for their national defence and they invest in reaserch and development and science far more than the rest, they follow a pacifist policy, of development in economics and social provisions, and they will naturaly advance more than all the rest of us who waste our resources in crazy millitary junk, welcome to the 21st century true battlefield.

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Michael ReineltJan 23rd, 2007 - 21:50:43

SP4,

yeah, 'aliens', sort of, did come up:

In 1990, I studied in a graduate program at UND (Grand Forks, ND), Space Studies, and while the USSR appeared to be imploding as a 'threat', the USAF actually had several articles in SPACECOM, that 'informed' about the danger stemming from asteriods, ... how they could annihilate all life on Earth ... , ... and that massive FUNDING was needed to develop SYSTEMS that would DETECT, and COUNTER any threat to EARTH.

I had to rub my eyes, I just could not believe the stupidity in this suggestion, let alone the stupidity (very likely) of a Congress that might go with it.

After all, the idiots are 'funding' the Missile Defense program (NMD?) ... just anything to waste the national wealth on. If one doesn't have an enemy, we'll create one.

Now it is 'terrorism', which is great, because it can be massaged any which way, it is nebulous enough to be a 'lurking threat' no matter how one looks at it -- it is certainly good to finance massive spending on many idiotic programs.

GW Bush and his gang are nurturing the terrorists, while the terrorists are taunting this so-called 'administration' (AKA a gang of thieves).

What a sick world!

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