Frank/Florida, USApr 9th, 2008 - 06:43:22

FREE TIBET�H missing an 'a' in front.
Tibet is a FREE Tibet already. It was freed in 1959. All one miilon slaves were freed on March 10, 1959. The Tabetans were so joyful when they started being a human. News images recorded the exciting moment.
When Dalai Lama was there before 1959, 95% Tabetans were slaves. To suppress any possible disobeying, hands and feet were cut, eyes were taken out, ears and tongues were removed as punishment. Appalling, the entire human skins, including face part and those on hands and feet, were peered out. Who had the freedom, Dalai and his government.

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james tangrenApr 9th, 2008 - 06:44:10

Tibet – the “Inconvenient Truth”
1. Tibetan Buddhist hierarchy – a combination of religion institution and secular governing body:

Contrary to the popular belief (molded and ingrained mostly by the western mainstream medias and probably in the textbooks as well) in the West, Tibetan Buddhist society was, never a pure form of religious institution in Chinese history, instead, a fundamentalism for as well as an extension of the then secular government solely consisted of slavery landlords. Tibetan Buddhism monasteries both directly and indirectly preserved the feudal system ruling the region for centuries with extreme cruelty, such as peeling off slaves’ skins to make drums, beheading prisoners to use their skull to make bowls. Dismantlement of limbs and gouging out of eyes were common punitive punishment was a memory as recent as 1940s of last century until the communist uprooted ruling class of the then Tibetan region.

The western so-called communist “invasion” and later on its crackdown of rebellion in the ensuing year was in fact not prompted by the quest for territorial gain (anyone with rich knowledge of Chinese history would know the legitimacy behind China’s claim of the region as a integrated part of the country), but rather the result of inevitable clash between two vastly different social ideologies.

As a result most of the Tibet exiles following Dalai Lama, old or new, are those who used to be the beneficiaries of that Tibetan feudal system. They are not real Tibetan people.

2. Dalai Lama – never a spiritual leader in Chinese Buddhism followers’ mind:

To understand this, western minds must abandon the perceived comparison between Buddhism and Christianity, particularly Catholic Church. Chinese Buddhism, due to its pacifist philosophy of life, has never developed into a unified and highly organized religious system. There is NEITHER a Buddhist “Bible” NOR a Buddhist “Vatican” to speak of is self evidence.

In Buddhism the reverence towards a certain living individual is of only academic value – no more, no less. In Chinese traditional point of view, living in seclusion was and still is regarded of the highest Way of Buddhist living. Participation in politicking is scorned off by mainstream Chinese Buddhism. From this standing point, it is not difficult to see why Dalai Lama does not have the respect from Chinese people, let alone win hearts and souls.

The Nobel Prize to Dalai Lama was just a poorly orchestrated politic joke in an ordinary Chinese eye. So please, if you happen to see Mr. Lama coming your way in the street, don’t be scared. A polite “Hi, there!” will be sufficient enough to fulfill your social courtesy.

3. Any logic behind the western medias’ truth-less report and inflammable commentaries:
Firstly, if there was no western reporter inside Tibet during the course of the riot, how can the various news agencies could justifiably declare they had told the public a true story? Second, manipulations of photographs, distortion of facts are surely not deemed as professionally ethical or even legal under the law of “freedom of speech”? Thirdly, when facts desperately in short supply, on what basis did editors and commentators alike make all those comments and accusations?
If we to take a leaf out of the book of the western justice system – “innocent until proven guilty” – to depict the bias of the western medias in this Tibet issue, we have to reverse the sentence and plus, and then it shall read like this: “guilty until proven innocent – but we are the judge and the jury”.
But there is the famous English saying even more deafening:
“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”. I hope you take it to your mind – because it is YOUR reputation on the line; and what’s more, as a news agency, reputation is your flesh and blood. Without them you are bound to be out of business – sooner or later.
4. Reaction from some of the world leaders:

It is absolutely shocking to see how they have acted the way like, with due respect to the artists, a pop star – caring only the quality of the tenor and the velocity of the voice, but not giving a dime about what exactly what they were talking about.

Isn’t it the leader of a nation should be the most knowledgeable (with the help of his/her think tank) person among his/her peers? Maturity should be the virtue of his/her leadership, right? And most importantly the national interest should certainly be the order of his/her job?

But hell no! As the anti-China shenanigan uncoiling we see you guys became headless, putting up some ugly no-brainer shows that certainly will not benefit the countries that you are elected to serve. Trust me on this one: whenever there is an action, there will be a reaction. If you want a friend you must yourself act like one; if you want an enemy you just carry on what you are doing now. China is not your wholesale market – she has survived over 6000 years, and mind you, for most part she had no idea where on earth the West was.

By the way, USA, the self-proclaimed leader of the free world, is just over 200 years old. If culture is the soul food and history the time for a nation to grow strong and healthy, it certainly lacks in both. The establishment of a strong and beautiful nation is just like the making of a noble spirit. From this point of view I tend to agree with the Scots: the American Whiskey (or any other Whiskey for that matter) is not Whisky.

As for the topic of morality and human rights, I dare say each and every Chinese baby has been born over 6000 years old. Please save your breath, or better still – lecture to yourselves if you want to. We know what we want and no force in the world could ever change that.

5. An advice to those who threaten to boycott Beijing Olympics:

I challenge you do what you say and say what you mean, please.

To your knowledge, the most cultivated value in Chinese tradition is to be humble and modest. We learned it since childhood.

What does this to do with “boycotting Beijing Olympics”? It surely does.

Because your boycott threats have just betrayed your feel of arrogance hidden in your innermost heart though it is entirely unjustifiable, which is just the adversary to the above-said value so cherished by Chinese people. Tell you the truth: you do know how to flatter yourselves indeed.

I advise you don’t ever backtrack your “boycott” threat, seriously. Because if you do, you will find you are NOT welcomed in China no matter where you go. And you’d better keep your words. Thus, at least we will respect you to be a person of your own conviction – be it wise or stupid.

6. Shame on China?

I don’t think so. To quell a riot and to protect innocent people and to ensure law and order are nothing to be ashamed of. Those violent mob led by Tibetan monks are the shameful lot. And so are those who use physical violence in protest against the Olympic Torch Rally. They have just shown the world how ugly and brutal and lawless they are. It is none too blind for those who don’t wish to see. As to those who insist to twist the facts they are simply from verbal diarrhea.

7. If you care to know who I am:

I am proud to tell you this: I am no government employee if this is what you want to know. But I am well educated and probably know the world a little better than those who are making big noises on their over-sized stages.

I am just an ordinary Chinese!

“Don’t be too CNN!”

The recent anti-China choir has reached a crescendo as the Beijing Olympic Rally has got underway. The time seems just right – the Olympics as close as merely a little over three months away. What topic? It is “human rights” issue, damn it!

Western mainstream Medias have not let themselves down by putting up a really good show to demonstrate to the world their professionalism to the full. Manipulations of original photos, distortion of facts, fraudulent reports, deliberate selective reports and editing – all methods that have been refined under the “Freedom of Speech” protection have been utilized to “send a message to China”.

You know what? We have surely received it.

Seeing is believing. If you go to Anti-CNN.com or MITBBS.com you will see it. Or better still – if you can understand Chinese as I English you shall see the plentiful posters – literally millions if not tens of millions – that have been jam-packed all Chinese websites the world over.

You should be very thankful to the Chinese government for blocking your websites. I happen to be one of the few “lucky” overseas Chinese who have the “good fortune” to read your newspapers and watched your TV clippings. And trust me, at this point of time – just as I am writing this comment, I really think Chinese government has done itself a great disfavour by denying the right of its people to know the kind of dirty work you have done to their country.

To the five innocent shop-keeping girls, who were burnt to death in the inferno of Tibetan rioters, you are just as evil as the murders who have physically committed the crime. To the 1.3 billion Chinese people your names are forever nailed on the totem post in the hall of shame.

In case people don’t know whom I am talking about, following is the list of those who have earned themselves the crown of shame: CNN, BBC, Washington Post, Fox News, Germany's N-TV, BILD, N24, RTL, German TV stations RTL and N-TV, and the radio station Voice of Germany.

As one of the 1989 Tiananmen Square prodemocracy demonstration supporters and activists, later jailed and deprived of his employment by the communist government, I have been totally disillusioned by your gentlemen’s abuse of the true spirit of the sacred “freedom of speech”. You don’t deserve it.

And that thought leads me to the following joke, not so funny though:
“How about ‘Freedom of Speech’?” a “free Tibet” demonstrator asked for the support of a beggar who was hoping for the placard to make a shelter.
“No, thanks.” Answered the poor man, thinking a piece of bread would be a better idea.
“Propaganda, then?” the demonstrator gave him a coin.
“Yes, please. But, just don’t be too CNN!”

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RogerApr 13th, 2008 - 05:36:44

This letter appeared in the Straits Times Singapore

psasembawang

Yesterday, 08:30 PM

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From a real tibetan:

My hometown is in Aba, Sichuan, China. I am a Tibetan. If you have doubt about my identity, please check my ID card No. £º51322219*****0473.

To chase the freedom is so fascinating, to chase the sky belonging to ourselves is so beautiful. But what I can not understand is why we need to chase freedom, while we have already get the freedom? Now your behavior, has already made our brotherhood, our government feel ashamed. You¡¯re right, you need your own history, we need our belief to extend the great spirit of King Gesharer. When I was in Seda Buddhism Institute, I¡¯ve read the full story of King Geshar, who is the proud of our Tibetan, even whole China. King Geshar is a hero, he made us live a good life, but can Dalai Lama do it? I hereby need to talk to you about which one is doing better to make us live good life, King Geshar or Communist Party. I don¡¯t want to talk about Dalai, he makes me feel ashamed, and he can not compare with Communist Party.

Seruo, Zhuoda, Dunzhu, you guys come to this forum very often, but what you said shows that you¡¯ve forgotten what your parents teach you ¨C somebody helped you, you need to appreciate and repay their kindness. Remember the story Grandpa Geden used to tell us?


If you forget, I can remind you:

Tibetan knows how to appreciate

Grandpa said our Tibetans have been really liberated just after liberation. We were no longer suffered from our lords, we were no longer slaves, no longer their long-term workers. Government gave us yak and sheep, the grassland, even the lord¡¯s house has been distributed to us. Afterwards, PLA¡¯s road-building team arrived. They built the road to Lasha, the government really manage to succeed to do it. Grandpa said, it was so difficult to build the road. The soldiers were using dynamic to explode the mountain, but on that day, 17 soldiers died, because the stones fallen buried them under the road. The soldiers transport us the salt, the tea, but they never wanted repay. They only said, these were offered by the government. So folks carried the Qinke leaves to feed the truck, because they thought the truck were tired after carrying us so much goods. Afterwards, the soldiers left even two trucks for us, and they didn¡¯t want anything. Then we heard the road to Lasha had been finished, and we really could take bus to go to Lasha.

Then, there was drought, the yak and sheep were so slim, the snow was heavy in Winter, so many yak and sheep died. We were desperate, but at this time, Government said the trucks from Chengdu had began to come to deliver goods to us. We didn¡¯t believe at first, but lots of truck delivered foods, quilts, and everything we needed within several days. Our parent generation kneed down on the grassland, to thank government, Communist Party, Chairman MAO, but not to the god, not to Dalai. We Tibetans thank our motherland, thank the support from our people.


TO: THE MOBSTER:

Our generation has seen this:

I want to ask you: Seruo, who installed your electrical light in your home? Who installed your ¡°wok cover¡± (satellite receiver)? Who built the the hospital in our village? Where the doctors come from? Who spent money to build the road? Who laid the telephone line for us? Who paid our sisters and brothers study cost? Who gave us allowance while we were suffering natural disaster? The landslide flooded your relative¡¯s house, who built him a new one? You have some accomplishment, you went oversea to study, but do you remember Professor ZHANG from Sichuan University? He financially support you to study oversea, but what are you doing? What you have done to our country? How your family, your benefactors will see you?

Last year, the railway has been built. In fact, we are poor or not? You know, we are not poor, but Dalia is still exploiting us.

His lackey sitting in the temple, randomly get a ¡°Living Buddha¡± name and touch the head of folks, then our people donate lots of money to the temple. Communist Party has helped us so much, but we don¡¯t even pay the basic tax. They think we are poor, so free our tax. We gave all our money to the temple, then ask the government to give us allowance food. Did government say anything? They only said: we respect minority religious belief.


You have been crackdown? Who killed you? Nobody did that. You kind of people deserve to be spurned by all the people.


TO SO CALLED INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS:

I know, you and my brotherhood are friends, and they recommend you to come to this forum. And this is written to you:

We are in China, our minority is enjoying the same treatment even better treatment than other nationality. You heard that Tibetan are abused by China, and the government crackdown the riots without any humanity, whole Tibetan people, even all Tibetans begin the riots and request the independence. It is fake to say that Chinese government didn¡¯t construct and develop Tibet. I will tell you that what happened in my hometown. Don¡¯t believe them anymore! What I said could be more reliable than what they say.

Chinese government has been constructing Tibet since reformation. The real factors are as follows:


1. Tibet is one of the districts where the tax has been cancelled very early.

2. There is no ¡°so called no freedom¡± in Tibet. We have been planned as Autonomous District. We Tibetans are managing our own Tibet, and enjoying the help from our country. Chinese government always promote ¡°Harmony¡± and they spend a lot of national reserved fund to financially support our university students to support Tibet construction, develop the education, light-industry, etc.

3. Chinese government has built the highest QINGZHANG Railway to develop Tibet, to have better economic development of Tibet. Chinese government has helped Tibetan people with full force while there are natural disasters.


4. Other nationalities of China are not looking down on Tibetans. They regard us as brothers, and we are enjoying same treatment as other Chinese civilians. There is no such a thing as discrimination.


5. Tibetans thank communist party and our country. There is no such a thing as ¡°all Tibetans are requesting uprising for independence¡±. In my hometown, 70% of population is Tibetans, but there are only above mentioned individuals who have their politics desires. The ratio is 1/4000, and these people have been called as gangsters. You are civilized people, free-chasing people, so I guess you will not help those gangsters who even their own nationality are spurning. And hope you will not be blinded by them.

6. Tibetans are not poor, our average income are higher than lots of other places in China. In my hometown, averagely, every family has 40 yak, 100 sheep. Every year, the income we get from selling yak, sheep, wool, medicines are over 100k RMB. Average personal income is around 20K RMB. But the folks in my hometown admire religious culture, and the money have been collected by the Dalai Clique by folks¡¯ religious belief and half-force method, to be used as their riot fund. Chinese government respect minority religious belief and help Tibetans.

7. Tibetans are not crackdowns during this riot. Only those mobsters have been arrested by military policed, and police as international custom. To arrest those mobsters who attack police are usual, I guess it¡¯s same in your country. The policeman has been beaten, I think you will use force as well, right? However, our policemen had to be very patient, didn¡¯t fire bullets to them. All the Chinese people including Tibetans request government to use the force to crackdown this riot. But government is still using persuading policy.

I believe my brother will not deny the above mentioned point. You can ask them to explain the above.


TO MY BROTHERS

Seruo, Zhuoda, Dunzhu, I tell you, you have violated Chinese Law, violated bottom line of our Chinese morality. Last time, government forgave you, but we will not forgive you. If you will still behave like this, I will wait for you in Chengdu. No need others to act, I will kill you! Your parents called me, said that you haven¡¯t contacted home for more than half a year. They worried about you, but I didn¡¯t tell them you have become dogs of Dalai. I am afraid your parents will kill you. Maybe you could be beam of China, but doing this, you will die. Your brother, me, I am not a weak person. I can see clearly who is the real one who deserve to be the leader of Tibetan and bring us to be rich and make Chinese to stand at top of the world.

You¡¯ve changed your mobile, I can not contact you. But I know you always come to this forum, so I hope you will not do it anymore. Please go to turn yourself to police, don¡¯t do bad behavior anymore. Folks from hometown, your parents, your friend will not forgive you. You made Tibetans lost face already. Now when I read about Tibetans riot, I want to cry. I want to argue that Tibetans are also nationality in China. But who will listen? I only can tell all my friends, we, Tibetans are not as you imagined, we are not mobsters.

My brother, please don¡¯t do this anymore.

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