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Mar 31, 2008, 14:11 GMT
China slams EU on Tibet statement; world protests mount (Roundup)
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Yew you’re obviously a Chinese communist with your propaganda you spew on this comment page. The difference here is that we are a free people who can think for themselves so your lies and cover up don't work here. Keep it to your own people that you want to keep depressed and stupid. What was China thinking when n it wanted the Olympics in the first place opps BIG miscalculation on Chinese power. By the way any fool knows that when China expels all foreign observers from Tibet it is because China is covering up the bloodshed it causes!
1.3b han-chinese living all round city in world? very stupid thoughts.
Whether the Dalai Lama instigated the riots himself is not important. The fact remains his followers caused deadly riots that killed many innocent people and caused tremendous property damage, and the Dalai Lama did not stop them. If the Dalai Lama is not in control of his followers, there is no reason for the Chinese government to negotiate with him. In fact I would strong oppose any kind of negotiation at least until peace and order has been completely restored. If any lessons were learned in Israel or Chechnya in dealing with rioters and separatists, it is that you never appease the enemy and you never negotiate under fire.
For those in the West who are critical of China in this recent actions. You have failed to understand both the historical and cultural context of why the Chinese government needs to do what it does. Are you completely sure that the Dalai Lama and his exiled Tibetan followers are not on the payroll of western intelligence. Read up on the history of Tibet and how the British and Americans have used Tibet to foment violence and caused strife to serve political aims of western interests. Freedom comes with responsibility. Not all who disagree with the Western Media are brainwashed by the Chinese government. No country will tolerate anarchy. The Tibetan violent protesters have much more sinister agendas. The primary importance is that most Chinese overseas and in China are no longer buying the Western press. That is good news. That these so called riots occurred around the time of Taiwanese elections is of no co-incidence. Fortunately, even the Taiwanese are acutely aware of this and the Tibet riots did not succeed to sway voters there from the more pro-China party. The PRC government is far from perfect, but if you look at how far they have come and how the West have tried to undermine them on slightest impulse; i have to give them credit for what they are doing. You can remain naive to the real issues of national security confronting China, but you will not be entertained by those who know better.
Alex, you make a lot of claims, do you have any proof for anything you say? If not then please STFU.
YEW, your comment clearly shows your ignorance and stupidity. Please do some research before opening your mouth rather than completely relying on extremely biased Chinese media, which seems like what you are doing. If you had done a little bit of research, you would find that there's no such thing...and there never was...as human sacrifices in Buddhism.
The Chinese, besides Japan, has a long history of aggression in the Orient, and this is just another example of it. I applaud the EU and others for supporting the Tibetans by comdemning Chinese's actions. Hopefully, enough disgruntlement from the rest of the world will knock them off of their high horse and get them to develop ways to end this thing peacefully.
The Chinese took over Tibet by military force. The Chinese government and military are cowards for using such force to take over a peaceful, mostly un-armed nation. Their defamation of the Dalai Lama clearly shows their disgusting nature. Their abusiveness in Tibet was what caused these protests. We are not living in a time of land conquest; that time period is long over. Stay in your own borders. Lands like Tibet and Taiwan are NOT yours to conquer! I spit on your cowardliness.
I do not understand how people can believe all the propoganda they are fed. The conspiracys you say exist only exist in you minds.
China's claim on Tibet is bogus. Greece was a part of the Ottoman empire. Should Turkey invade and appropriate Greece? No. It is wrong for China to claim Tibet just because Tibet was a part of the Qing Dynasty. This the reason quoted by China in order to legalize their appropriation of an otherwise free nation of Tibet before 1950. Moreover, China should be held responsible and China's leaders tried for war crimes for committing a genocide of 1,278,387 Tibetans until 1983 and counting... The media, for politeness sake, usually discounts all those Tibetan lives lost while only claiming 'cultural genocide' of Tibet by China.
The human rights record of Communist China is near incomprehensible. The toll begins with between 6-10 million deaths as a direct result of Communist actions. Over 20+ million counter-revolutionaries perished in prison camps and a further 20-43 million perished as the Great Leap Forward collided with the greatest famine in human history. The Cultural Revolution consumed a further million. Then a genocide of Tibetans, Sudanese, Burmese, and the list goes on... Free Tibet NOW~!
I would like to express my view of this topic
1. Tibet is part of China.
This is the truth that Tibat is part of China. Every country in the world agrees with the truth. If you don't agree with that, you have the right to express your own opinion, but it will not change what the truth is. And we don't have any common ground to debate.
2. Western media are biased.
We have read Tibetan's protests again and again reported from western media. But they have never reported Chinese protects against Tibetan separatism. If you have the chance to get involved in oversea chinese communities or websites, you will see how much chinese people support China government on this issue.
I am amused that West actually buys into the superstition of the Dalai Lama and his cohorts. He is just an opportunist on the payroll of the Americans. I guess for a while, i too thought that he is advocating peace and so on by his position and writings, but there are forces whether under his control or not which are violent, ugly and out to destroy a peaceful society. This remains a fact. There are also many fake Buddhists whose actions do not gel with Buddhist principles. Hence, the recent riots. I am glad those so called immigrant Tibetan exiles remain the West. You can feed them and cajole them and even subscribe to their propaganda in the West. China will remain stable and continually improve their systems and governance. The West do not have a monopoly on virtue and certainly laughable to preach morality to the Chinese (read up on the Opium War, CIA testimony by Knaus etc.).
What do you need proof of? That the rioters are followers of Dalai Lama? They are chanting his name and holding up his picture, right? I assume you have seen all the videos floating around on the Internet. In fact, if they are NOT his followers, then the Dalai Lama is irrelevant, so why should you negotiate with someone that's irrelevant?
If people really care about democracy, they will notice people in China are overwelmingly supportive of their government on the Tibetan issue. People tend to support their government when under foreign pressure. To say that foreign media coverage has been even-handed is a joke. I see one news article about the Chinese victims of the riots for every one hundred that talks about Tibetan being arrested. What do you expect a sovereign government to do? Just allow people to riot and let mob violence rule the street?
I truly don't understand why some so called democracy activists want to isolate China at every turn. I guess they are not very good students of history or just don't care. Just look at what happened in Cuba for the last half a century. Castro is still in power and in fact he merely uses the western isolation as the excuse all his failings. By any measure, engagement has made China a far more open society than Cuba.
Isn't Africa to be considered as the most urgent issue than Tibet?
When it comes to question of national sovereignty and security, the Chinese government have no need to humor the 'white man's glee' about the riots in Tibet. Those who cause troubles internally will pay their dues in time. Having lived in the West for a long time, and by the way i am not Chinese, and having some understanding on the history of China; i am not surprised at all by the Western media and governments hypocritical approach to China. What the Chinese needs to learn from is the Israelis handling of terrorists, especially in public relations. Maybe they can hire PR firms like what the US presidential candidates have done.
Tibetan buddism is a heretic branch of mahayana buddhism. It had many superstition and borrowed ideas Tantric sexual practice from india and shamanic practice from the shamanic Bon religion of North Eastern India. It had many so called secret sutras brought to Tibet by the Lotus Born in 7th cen ad. This is why even as buddhist I never really believe their saying. I rather be hinayana thai buddhist than a tibetan shaman with no theological basis for their sutras.
Tibet is one of a hundred reasons I hate the government of China, and 'hate' is not a word I often use. Besides the arrest, torture, and summary executions of hundreds of peaceful Falun Gong practitioners, the iron grip preventing free expression, the implicit acceptance of Iran's terrorist leanings, and the tacit approval of Sudan's genocide, the Chinese government has the gall to occupy another country for 50 years and act outraged when the people there oppose their tyranny. The Chinese have blocked all the recordings of the confrontations they can, and refuse to acknowledge that any innocent Tibetans have been hurt, despite reliable reports of nearly one hundred dead.
The Tibetan rioters are killing innocent people, which is terribly wrong, but their guilt does NOT absolve China of being guilty of tyrannizing those people to the point of desperation. China obviously doesn't understand the point of the Olympics if they think their crimes should be ignored in light of the games. The games are supposed to bring our ideals to a higher, international level, not mask our atrocities.
Every human on earth knows what Freedom is and there is no freedom in China.
American business should be ashamed to do business with a country like China after so many Americans have died to promote Freedom in the World.
Liars at M&C deleted comments on their coverage of Tibetan riots. Keep deleting.
What a mad world we live in. On one side we are provoking unrest an problems about the countries which were ocupied or taken in by the other sates decades ago and forget about the current events like ocupation of Iraq or Afgnistan. Europe or America has got no right to this propaganda when they are the people who are ocupying lands and killing millions in this century right infornt of our eys. good luck to this world where butchers are talking about animal rights.
Slavery is out of date, period.
I agree Israel has been far more successful in their PR and I generally support the actions of sovereign governments facing separatist movements. It does help Israel to have the most powerful country on earth always on the Israeli side. I support China's gradual move toward democracy, but to argue the right to secede by Tibetans or any other region is not democracy. A democratic China would probably have a more hard-line approach in a crisis like the current one, judging from the mood of Internet bloggers in China. To Tibetans, stop your pipedream of 'Free Tibet'! Tibet is already free. Tibet will always be part of China. No democratic government will ever allow its territory to secede.
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