Taiwan PatriotAug 22nd, 2007 - 00:51:36

'He was expected to give 5 million US dollars in aid to Honduras for a national computerization project, Taiwan Foreign Affairs Ministry officials said.' Hmmm...anyone who is bashing China for 'bribing' other countries want to explain this?

If China builds roads and hospitals in other nations, you pro-independence people bash it as bribery to contain Taiwan, but if Taiwan does it, you people stay silent and look the other way? LOL, look at your hypocrisy.

Also, is it smart for Chen to bash the nation that is willing to protect Taiwan in a war? That's a pretty dumb move :)

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Taiwan SupporterAug 22nd, 2007 - 12:51:37

This is really not a good time to bash your president. Historically, giving aid to allies has always been a common practice long back in KMT days. It's really nothing new. Of course, if you look at how much china is willing to give african countries, it's not comparable. Also, do you know how much US gives Israel per year? we're talking about billions! so comparable basis, it's not that bad so I wouldn't be so negative on chen if I were you.
In fairness, this is a normal activity. If someone were to squeez you so you don't have much space, what would you do? Naturally, you would fight to retain it! Right? And money is a very convenient 'commodity' if it can resolve that. In the end, this is nothing to be critical of. Remember, how much did china gave to Costa Rica before they abandon Taiwan? We're talking in hundreds of millions. let's not have double standards here!

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Re:Aug 23rd, 2007 - 04:36:44

Frankly, I don't care if countries send other countries money. My problem is when pro-independence people start bashing China for doing it, when Taiwan does it itself.

If pro-independence people agree to stop bashing China for doing that, I won't bring up this issue anymore.

Also, care to comment on Taiwan ripping the US?

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Re:Aug 23rd, 2007 - 13:09:04

Well, the bashing is taking place because of recognition. At this point, you know just as much as me that Taiwan is desperately fighting to retain the remaining 24 allies. While China, now on its way to become a superpower, wants nothing less than squeezing out Taiwan from the international stage. Therefore, due to the nature of the current environment, bashing will continue to take place.
Here is what I think should happen. Taiwan should be treated just like former east/west Germany, and north/south korea. Until the reunification takes place, Taiwan should have a say at the world stage. If this were the case, we wouldn't have an issue regarding bribing other countries to compete for recognition. Since china/taiwan chose this path, it only illustrates how unopen minded we are. Such unopenness is the main driver of the independence move. In the end, we've learned nothing from the 5000 years of history.
As with bashing US, I obviously think it's appropriate as US does appear to have double standards since they support independence for the province of Kosovo but holds a different view on Taiwan. Being in US for over 20 years, I do feel US is not as friendly and has become more 'realistic'. I think it's natural that taiwan looks at US and says 'if you look out only your own interest, then I will too!'

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