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By Hazel Parry Jun 30, 2007, 12:35 GMT

China's 10th birthday present to Hong Kong: A lesson in obedience


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David HelffrichJun 30th, 2007 - 13:13:27


Your metaphor reveals an opinion of freedom-loving peoples as immature. In your view, is it immature to love liberty?

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David LumJun 30th, 2007 - 14:29:01

Under the revered old days of British rule, how much 'democracy' existed? Wasn't it interesting that the first real citizen votes for HK top leaders took place just months before the British departed?
Some people like 'democracy' when they think it helps them. Some hate democracy's results: Mr. Chavez, for example.

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RobJun 30th, 2007 - 16:12:05

Um, Chavez was democratically elected with 62% of the vote against a second place with 36.7%, with the opposition party recognising it? I fail to see why this would be 'hating democracy's results', given that he has control through it...



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DHelffrichJun 30th, 2007 - 16:17:10


... and some despise those who crave power over others and want to tear liberty away. Mr. Chavez, for example.

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Tony, OhioJun 30th, 2007 - 16:26:29

The celebrations about the HK 10th anniversary return to China is an internal historic event.

As outsiders, I think we should be happy for China and the people of HK.

We should respect the celebrations of other countries.

As Americans, we have celebrations too, so let's view it as a positive occassion.

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peacefulreunificationJun 30th, 2007 - 18:18:35

From polls conducted in independent and anti-China journals and newspapers in Hong Kong, close to 99% of the Hong Kong people approve of the way China is running things. In fact, I've read that 99% of the people believe that China is offering more democracy and freedom to Hong Kong than at any time in their history.

With those facts in mind, I believe the transition to a special administrative region under China has been an absolute success to Hong Kong.

Of course, anti-China Taiwanese sources would like to subvert the public by outright lies and propaganda, but that's expected of them, since they are in denial about the democracy and freedoms that China is offering to everyone.

Congratulations Hong Kong and China for taking the right steps.

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RobJun 30th, 2007 - 18:38:02

Oh I don't know about everyone, some would say the clearances going on pre-olympics for example, or holding of political prisoners, China's position at/near the top of the list for state executions and of course attitude to Tibet and Taiwan, it's censorship of the press and violent strikebreaking don't tally entirely with the idea of 'freedom'.

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Jeff_F_FJun 30th, 2007 - 22:19:19

99% is a lot. I've never heard of an actual poll that got 99% agreement on anything. Even Ngo Dinh Diem was only 'elected' as president of South Vietnam by 98.2% of the vote.

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ThomasJun 30th, 2007 - 22:43:43

Hong Kong is not a child, China is a bully.

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EvergreenJul 1st, 2007 - 02:47:10

When will Taiwan rejoin China to take advantage of China's booming economy and huge presence?

Taiwan will lose out if they do not join up with China.

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peacefulreunificationJul 1st, 2007 - 04:41:30

China doesn't censor anything. They allow every single website on the net to be viewed by their people. People who say China censors anything is just trying to subvert the public. The Chinese government fully believes in unfettered access to information for all Chinese.

And yes, 99% is a high number. It just comes to show much the people of Hong Kong love the freedoms that China offers.

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RobJul 1st, 2007 - 08:31:38

Uhuh, apart from when they are using the google search engine it seems (which has an agreement to censor the words Falun Gong from its engine for example), and of course the oh-so-unrestrictive registration scheme which sees hosting groups self-censor to retain their legality...

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