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By Stone Martindale Jan 24, 2007, 21:23 GMT
Dakota Fanning 'mad as she can be' at 'Hounddog' critics
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Why must you DEFY me?
Elle, release the hounds!
It's too bad the religious fundamentalist cannot face the facts that such things do happen in real life. In fact there is an entire GENERATION of women from that era upwards to the 70s who have carried this secret because talking about rape and sexual assualt/molestation 'just wasn't done' back in the the day. I can totally identify with this story....only in my case my 'Elvis' was Rick Springfield. It was his music that help me survive the horror that was my pre-adolescence and being repeated molested by my mother's boyfriend...and having a mother who refused to believe me when I tried to tell her. I think this movie should be seen by families and teens....and followed with an honest talk that helps young people protect themselves from predatory animals who go after young kids. Forewarned is forearmed, that's what I say.
It sounds to me like Miss Fanning has some widom beyond her years...and yet people fault her for it? Ok, the media is mentioning Jodie Foster and Brook Shield, but what about Linda Blair? She too did similar movies. All this stereotyping about people who were child actors is ridiculous. Not all child actors are screwed up people. There are people who have never been in show business who are screwed up, too...so what's the excuse there?
Parents like to see their children in nice happy barney-like situations at all times and they refuse to acknowledge the fact that there are sexual predators out there who target our children - teenage or infant. The message of the movie has to be lauded, however im not sure how the actual crime is depicted having not seen the movie. i dont believe it's right to attack one's family and personal beliefs...it's a movie and it's not like Ms. Fanning submitted herself to this inhuman act!
The irony here was mentioned above. Those that condemn it most likely have supported it in some fashion in their past. Every woman I have ever met has had sex against her will. I think of Rape as a victims term, as I think many adults could avoid the situations. But children, they are different. They are seduced into thinking that it is ok, or are easily overpowered by an adult or larger child. The fact that people are afraid to talk about this is outrageous. Of course, what else can we expect from the religious community. I mean catholic priests are the ones doing the raping. God sure makes people great.
This is to cootie. First, read aloud exactly what you have typed. You should see how it makes zero sense. Second, go back and check the grammar and spelling. As far as your 'thoughts', I would suggest that you have to train yourself to be able to separate a role, character, or identity from the actual actor that is portraying someone.
As far as the comparison to Lohan and Bonaduce?? Are you kidding me?? It isnt even close!!!
Jody Foster and Brooke Shields both went on to become well educated women, worthy of the respect and prosperity their careers have brought them. I suspect that Dakota will follow in their footsteps and be an example to all.
Hiding the truth from girls is not the way to protect them. If even one girl is made aware and more wary as a result of this movie, then it has succeeded as an informational piece.
who knows maybe she'll grow up to be a smarter female teenage star than her counter-parts (lohan, duff, etc.) maybe for once a female role model for growing girls with intelligence, class, and fenesse and can actually act instead of just putting on a cute smile and giving something for all those growing boys and middle aged men to.. well i'm pretty sure most of you know. I say give her a chance, not every child is given the chance for a childhood, maybe her stardom will have its mental repracussions as it has on so many a child-star, we can only wish her luck and that she'll one day become a respectable and wonderful actress with a good resume of films.
File this under...' who bloody cares'
Cootie looks like you're the one in need of an eductaion!! Your grammar is horrible and you cant even use the correct words. Its scene not seen.
I first saw her in the scifi series TAKEN and she is a brilliant actor. She is much smarter than her peers at her same age. Her parents don't force her to do any roles. She discussed it on a Late Night Show w/ Jay Leno a few years back. Her parents will allow her to take any role that they believe she is mature enough for. The way she spoke on that show proved she is extremely mature. They also have a shrink examine her before she takes certain roles to make sure she is capable of handling what she is doing in contriversial scenes.
Mainly, it's not your kid so you have no say in what she can or can't do. Most grown people couldn't act as well as this little girl and they definitely don't have children that can.
I do believe that the purpose behind Ms. Fanning's actions are being widely misconstrued by critics. By shedding light on a such a difficult situation, Ms. Fanning as well as those who watch Hounddog, learn from it. Always running away from difficult situations, or avoiding just talking about them, does nothing towards educating todays youth. Yes, childhood is a wonderful time in hopefully every humans life, but that is not an excuse for turning a cheek to experiences humans are meant to learn from.
If Dakota didn't do it, some other 12-year old WOULD. However we probably wouldn't be talking about it because THAT 12-year old wouldn't be famous. In this day and age, why is a professional actress doing her job so shocking? I've got a strong feeling they wouldn't show Ms. Fanning exposed, because that would be kiddie porn and the producers would be arrested. So how is this exploitation?
The producers/writers/directors have already done their job, without even publicly screening the movie. They've brought attention to an issue they feel passionate about and it's forcing people to think outside of their box. The people raising the commotion are the 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!' crowd, the same people who would rather a child shuffle about foster homes and orphanages than have caring(god forbid!) gay parents. While it's important to 'think of the children', don't think of all the children as if they're yours, because they're not. They're OURS, and you have absolutely NO right to them, no matter how offended you are. That's the beauty of a free society. You're free to take your hyper-concern and paranoia and shove it up your ass.
What is it with people bringing religion into this? Christians, only those who claim higher moral authority, should get off their high horses. This is not a matter of religious belief, it is the matter of a learning experience, for both Dakota Fanning and the viewers of Hounddog. If Dakota Fanning and her family are fine with her doing the scene, leave it be, it is none of your business anyways. What better way to educate people about a social issue than through allowing people to see it in all it's truth? Props to Dakota for having the courage, that very few of her critics have, to confront and tackle an issue that is very real in our world.
Why use an 11 or 12 year old actress at all? Why not make the character a bit older (yet still a minor) and find a particularly young looking and talented 18 – 20 yr. old woman to play the part? The message of the film is still intact and there is no risk of child exploitation. It’s nothing new for Hollywood to cast older people in younger roles. As long as the actress is believable as the character, it’s all good.
...if I question the motivation behind putting a twelve year old in a rape scene, how is that equated with a desire to 'hide the truth' about child-rape? nice try, but clouding the issue, and throwing in a little pathos for good measure, isn't a substitute for debating the point. the question is: is DF old enough to make this call? I'm not sure what makes the majority on this board so positive she is. what's with that? as for the argument that the scene has an educational value, since indies tend to draw the already enlightened/the converted, and I doubt the pedophiles that will surely find this film are gonna turn over a new leaf, who exactly do you think will learn from it? if it was made as a some form of catharasis for those who suffered from child-abuse, well, that's not exactly educational, but more therapeutic, and I still won't agree with using a minor to make that point...
To Ms. Fanning, Congratulations on your bravery for tackling one of the most sensitive and most ignored issues that is rampant everywhere (and I mean, globally in all cultures- woe to those victims, though, that get victimized over and over again).
But please stop singling out Catholic priests as the only ones raping members of their congregations, I hope you’re not ignorant yourself that rapists/molesters/sex offenders can be found in any walk of life. Whoever thinks he’s “Holy” or “Without Sin” enough to spread the gospel of his or her so- called religion, please don’t tell me that all your preachers, or rabbis or Buddhist monks etc… are all flawless. Please go ahead and cast out the first stone. Any takers?? Any one?
Peace to all
I completely agree with Malvolio and Seeker of Love. This child should not have the responsibility to decide what is good for her. In other wards, should we just let our kids be their own boss at 12 and stop being parents, that they no longer need guidance - our job is finished!!! Gimme a break. I don't think people who are against the rape scene feel this doesn't happen in life - no one would who has the ability to read a paper or watch the news - just that we don't need to rely on a so-called movie to educate people. There again, it should be up to parents to do the educating, and we shouldn't stop the parenting at 12!! This girl is just a little too mature, and sometimes that can be a real turnoff when a child tries to act like a superior 'little adult'!!!! And yes,I also know that kids this age know much more about life than they did years ago, but that still doesn't mean she should have control over what she feels is right for her. Regardless of how mature they seem, they are still children and aren't capable of thinking and reasoning like an adult. And child stars who grow up to be responsible, successful actors are few and far between. I know it happens, but even the successful ones have had their share of major problems in life..............
I can't believe people actually think that the ones who are against this rape scene don't want to face the real facts - get a life, people. Most educated people are well aware of what life has to offer out there, that this happens all the time at any age, from infants on up!! They just don't feel this movie was made to educate, and that a 12 year old isn't mature enough to make the call of taking this kind of role, regardless of how wordly and mature some people view Dakota. She is a child or has everyone forgotten?? She comes across a little like a superior-acting, self-absorbed (so into herself) that it fails to be appealing - a little much!!
I have not seen the movie. I might see it. It appears (I do not know for a fact) Dakota Fanning is a mature, little girl, not a woman.
I understand and accept the burden and responsibility of the imperative to 'judge not'; _ it is, do not be hasty in your judgments.
I do not condemn Dakota or her family. It is a personal decision and guidance by both. There are some things I am made to wonder
about the 'outrage' posted here. Where is the 'outrage' for the screen depictions of murder and robbery in other movies? When
did those become alright for viewing by all including children? Where was the 'outrage' in Bastard out of Carolina?
This 'outrage' is one of great selectivity and it panders to the desired outcome; profit on the one hand, voyeurism on the other, and in fairness, art.
(Yes, that would be your third hand.)
Lets be, with all the talk of being 'adult' and 'realistic' when we espouse the addage that 'these things need to be talked about', mindful
of who feeds at that trough.
Yes, it is a movie. Yes, it is good acting, 'movie magic' and an 'important topic'. We buy into and sell out on the
educational quality byline. Yes, children are not naive about sex, rape, drugs. That's a superficial, clinical, six o'clock
news variety knowledge and not necessarily an understanding of the scars (they outlast the hurt) these can incur on an indivdual.
You may think this a stretch, but hear me out. Saddam Hussein has been judged and he is gone from his world.
How many people felt a need to view the execution online? It's a reality of life. How many thought nothing that a child, as
well as any adult, could view the hanging online with the justification that, 'it's justice'? There were some who saw it some who didn't among those little boys
who hanged themselves not fully understanding the meaning and consequences of certain actions to their own peril.
How much more perverse are they who view the movie, not for the rape, but for the 'director's great work', or
'an excellent handling of a controversial topic', then those who view a hanging be it for it 'historical significance',
its 'lesson on justice'?
As I have read, the movie is based on director Deborah Kampmeier's own life story. As I see it, Dakota and cast are just
so many people helping her tell her story, select portions of her life experience at that. I got laughter the first time
I soloed my rape story (it's not limited to little girls) sixteen years after the fact.
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