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By Scott Rosenberg Apr 4, 2006, 12:16 GMT
Movie downloads an evolutionary idea?
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I am glad to see that the movie industry has become aware of the situation. I can't remember it was but in the last 3 months or so M. Knight Shamlayan came and spoke to the theatres about this exact thing - He said he wouldn't release a movie on DVD or over the Net at the same time it hits the theatre because it takes away from the theatre.
Once this hits the Internet at the release date 'they' will find ways to rip it, crack it, and distribute it. DVD security protection doesn't stop people from taking movies now - why do these Companies put the movie in a format directly on the computer and not expect the pirating to grow exponentially?
I enjoy taking my wife to the theatre to watch the new movies - we might be a dying breed but it is more fun to go see a show then to spend the same amount of money on a DVD that we're not sure we are going to want.
The Theatre's will need to more direct in their communication because when this new form of release hits the net - its gonna spread like wildfire!
(The betamax issue now makes incredible more sense out of the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray fight that is currently going on! Sony doesn't want to loose this one again.)
'Is it good for a cozy night with a loved one in a candle lit room with some excellent wine? I don’t think so.'
While it may be true that watching a movie on a CRT monitor is not very fun or romantic, I doubt this is really an issue. More and more plasma TVs are coming with advanced connection options. Many of the brand name companies like Sony and Hitachi are making network enabled DVD players and digital theater systems. Currently I have my entire DVD collection on a file server. I use a program called Beyond Media to access my movies and watch them on my plasma tv in the living room. Of course I had to build the box custom, which took quite some time, it works well. Look for network enabled appliances that will bridge thegap between internet/network based content and the tradition 'TV in the den' - that is the next evolutionary step in media content delivery.
I think the movie downloads is a great idea.
i love the idea of movie downloads. on the other hand, i hate the price...
who in their right mind would buy less for the same price? when you buy a DVD you get a lot of bonus features not to mention something tangible to add to your movie collection. Even then you can use legal software to convert that DVD into a movie file to be watched on whatever mobile device you chose...
make movie downloads at least 25% less than a DVD and then i'll consider buying one.
Worst. Article. Ever.
Was the time line really needed?
Get to the point already.
At least there are some alternatives to the high prices. Sites like 4Flix.Net have feature-length, DRM-free downloads from $1.99, and they just announced an annual subscription service. Works great on the iPod, to boot!
I can't imagine that downloading movies that you can't even play on a tv (and for $20-30 a pop) is going to be a big money making business. Maybe I am out of the loop, but if I am going to pay that much, I will buy it on DVD and get better quality. Personally, I would just as soon rent from Netflix or Blockbuster if I must see a movie as soon as it is released on DVD. I have found that owning movies isn't that great because how often do you watch the same movie over and over? If it is really good, I might watch it twice in 2 years. Even some award winning movies aren't ones I would want to watch twice.
A new form of media is emerging. Virtual interactive sex via the Internet was patented in 2002.
It's far from an idea, its been done for years already, just not offically or legally. Its a step and a very important one. The next step is to electronically join TV sets with computers and give them a hard drive.
On the issue of technology phasing out older industrys I have two things to say. First of all, going to the cinema is a unique experience you cannot get from watching your 15 or 17 inch computer screen at home with little stereo speakers. Secondly, tough. Progress is progress, some poeple lose out on dying industries, thats just the way the world works... don't behave like a labor union.
Independent film producers have been offering movie downloads for a couple of years now. The studios are inherently always behind the curve when it comes to technology....check out www.blowingsmokethemovie.com for an example of one of the first movie blogs to offer a purchaseable download of a full-length digital feature.
Downloads are turning out to be 'just the thing' for that candlelit evening after all. With advents like MythTV (a free Linux-based application that turns many aging PCs into TVs with recording/playback capability rivalling TiVo) and older technologies like VideoCD which debuted in the late 80s/early 90s, and can hold about half a movie on each cheap disc at a quality between VHS and DVD, which anyone can burn from nearly any downloaded movie file, and which your DVD player can alrady play. PC screens are getting larger, prices are coming down, and with home networking going through the roof you don't even need the screen in the same room as the PC.
Give it another gneration or so, and nobody will have a TV that is only a TV anymore than your current mobile phone is just a phone.
I don't understand the concern of exhibitors about downloadable movies. The article (editorial?) says
'Movielink and CinemaNow will offer download-to-own sales of feature films at the same time as the studio’s pre-established home video release window,'
>>>Same time as the home video release window. <<< This only cannibalizes is DVD sales (though I have a hard time imagining that they will be selling the things at full resolution: multiple GB downloads are not convenient for many people yet.) I don't think there is a market of people that will now forgo going to the theater because downloading a movie 6 months after the release is so much more convenient than buying a DVD 6 months after the release.
You could make the 'well, this opens the door for downloads concurrent with the theater release' argument, however if that door is gonna open, I don't think this particular move really makes much difference.
I think the theater business is so cutthroat right now due to overbuilding, that the NATO is in a negative mood and looking for something to blame things on. Anything with any glimmer of potential downside they will fuss about.
the article starts off with a lie and goes downhill from there ... I Love Lucy was never filmed in color (and thus never seen in color) despite the authors hazy flashback
I like the whole timeline concept in this article, quite a clever way to draw your analogies. Scott, you're a great staff writer. Keep up the good work.
As for the movie downloads, I see both sides of the issue. On the one hand, the studios are irritated at the multiplexes for failing to clean up their act and draw moviegoers. Study after study on this issue suggests that its not the movies themselves that are pushing moviegoers away.. it's the horrendous movie experience, such as ticket and food prices, cleanliness, customer service, noise, cellphones, filthy bathrooms, etc. The list goes on. Every issue is a theatre one. I suspect, since most theatres are owned and ran by the uncaring mega-chains now, it is they who need to clean up their act, as they're running their companies and the business into the ground.
On the other hand, movie downloads will never work. Well, I shouldn't say never just yet, as there MAY be a time where convergence of the PC and the TV actually happen. Unfortunately, that day still have not arrived, and it may be decades before it does. Most people still don't know what a .mpg is, and most people still don't understand the concept of downloading a file. They wouldn't get what to do with it if they could. I'm a support technician, and I'd estimate for 70% of my clients, this is the case, young and old alike.
Here is what people like to do on the PC: They want to play solitaire, check their e-mail, and surf the web. Any other activities happen rarely if at all. As for movies, people like to watch them on the couch on the big TV. They don't like to watch movies on the family PC in the den, or home office PC.
So no, movie downloads are an unworkable idea at the moment. Great article though.
Personally I don't feel too sorry for cinema owners, they've been overcharging cinema go-ers for years. There's nothing more annoying than paying for ticket and the only seats left are so close to the screen that you leave the place with a stiff neck. If I can watch the latest films from the comfort of my sofa then I'm interested.
Re: Lucy
He probably meant when I Love Lucy became the Lucy Show. Yes, Lucy was in color at that time.
This heralds the death of the movie theater.
And perhaps indicates the birth of Interactive retro-fitted theater spaces.
Movie theaters can become more than movie theaters. They can become multiplayer game and collaboration interfaces. This way they can rent them out 24-7 rather than just at hot times.
Convert the spaces!!!
I agree those people who say that the same price as a DVD is too much for a digital-only copy absent of special features. I might see it as a convenience fee (Yay! I don't have to get dressed to see that brand new movie! Or, for those in rural areas, Yay! I don't have to drive 30 miles to the nearest theater or video store!)
Personally, I use my laptop to play DVDs, and carry it around with me and sometimes hook it up to a TV.
'Is it good for a cozy night with a loved one in a candle lit room with some excellent wine? I don’t think so.'
I'd say that hooking my laptop into a nice, high-def TV is better for a cozy night with a loved one than going to a place that forbids wine (or any other drink brought from outside) and candles, and in which the guy two rows and one seat down is screaming at the movie I'm watching. I'd also say that a loveseat is a better seat for such an event than the uncomfortable chairs at most theaters I've been to.
As for piracy, there is no way to stop piracy. Even if your average Joe can no longer rip the media, your average Joe can still download it...and it only takes one rip to make an infinite number of copies.
And on the topic of hurting theaters, there was one good point made in the article: it's nearly impossible to really recreate the feeling of being in a theater, at least as of yet. We're coming upon it, perhaps, but if the media did evolve beyond requiring a special location for such an experience, would that be such a bad thing? Do we like paying $8 for a medium-size bag of popcorn that much? Perhaps if theaters moved to the home, more innovation in the field of how we watch it could be made.
There's nothing new or revolutionary about this. As your timeline shows, the technology to encode and distribute movies on the internet has been around for over a decade. If I own a movie on a VHS tape, can I put it in my VCR/DVD burner and burn a DVD of it? Can I encode it as an AVI file and watch it on my video iPod? The courts already established in the 1970's that I can. The studios have been gradually trying to erode *our* property rights ... the rights we have as individuals who have purchased *something*. They want DRM-enabled devices that do not allow the kind of copying that has already been established by the courts we are entitled to do, and laws that make circumventing this crippling a crime.
Why? So that they can sell us the movie download *and* the DVD. So that if we want to watch that episode of Friends that we like, we can't just pull out our old VHS tape --- that we are legally entitled to have --- and watch it. We have to buy the download, that maybe we can only watch a few times because of DRM code, and buy the DVD box set (that costs $100, even though the episodes have already been paid for with advertising dollars and syndication). Oh, and did I mention that the DVD has previews of the other fine products they'd like you to buy? (And, of course, the skip button is disabled while the previews play.)
What are we paying for exactly? If we buy a DVD, what exactly do we own? If we want to watch it on our PC or iPod, isn't that our business? Why should we have to buy it again? If I were to download Charlie's Angels 2, and I find out that it's a piece of crap, shouldn't I be able to resell it?
If piratebay.org can distribute a movie download for $0, why does it cost $20 from the studio? Are you telling me that the out-of-pocket costs of 'On The Waterfront' paid by the studio haven't been repaid a thousand times over? Isn't anything they take from the consumer basically 'free money'? Wouldn't many of these 'classics' have already fallen into the public domain if not for Mickey Mouse?
What you really need is a timeline showing the ever-dwindling rights of the consumer with respect to copyright law.
All this DRM stuff is giving me a headache, why does the recording industry have to fight the inevitable to the death. Nobody is going to fall for this one-time movie downloading business, or spend more money just to have a DRM enabled device that takes away freedom. If congress refuses to fix the copyright laws, it's now up to the consumer to stand up to the big companies taking advantage of this and stealing our public domain rights.






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