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Do You Really Need a Xbox 360 Elite?
By Casey Lynch Mar 30, 2007, 18:39 GMT
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just out of curiosity...does the elite come w/an hd drive???...or do you have to buy it for $200???..b/c it has a port doesn't mean it comes w/the hd drive.
Nope it doesn't...it's still external
He didn't say internal. Yes it comes with the 120 gig hard drive but it is removeable...
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This seems to follow MS's previous policy: gradual update rather than one big upgrade (SONY style). So far worked better for them: gained market share from temporarily being ahead of the competition, create more hype (multiple launches). On the flip side, they also create some unhappy customers who just purchased the now 'old' version. I won't buy one now. I'm sure MS will launch an improved version just in time for christmas: they are obviously holding back: integrated HD DVD, Wi-Fi, Bigger Hard Drive, better video card, etc. It's an interesting game they're playing while keeping everyone on etheie toes: what's next and when? Hey... wait a minute.... that's other Steve's Job...
I have and love my 360.
I am playing on a 62' HD Samsung.
WIll my games appear sharper with the Elite HDMI cable or do i need to wait until they make HD games?
For instance I'm playing MotoGP 06 will it improve the graphics?
Thanks,
Duke
Microsoft's new xbox 'elite' as they call it is rushed just to compete with the PS3. It looks crap as well. PS3 is way better in looks and hard drive can be upgraded to more than 120gig. One other thing- they 360 elite still doesn't come with a hd-dvd hi-def player built in, though who wants one; blu-ray is far more ahead. THe xbox 360 elite will still have that horrible power supply as well unlike ps3; it's built in. Xbox losers!
'The Duke of UrlMar 30th, 2007 - 21:18:53
I have and love my 360.
I am playing on a 62' HD Samsung.
WIll my games appear sharper with the Elite HDMI cable or do i need to wait until they make HD games?
For instance I'm playing MotoGP 06 will it improve the graphics?
Thanks,
Duke'
Yes it will look sharper compared to using component but not sure how different it will look compared to VGA.
I currently use VGA and is much sharper than component but some may argue that the colours aren't as deep/bright and has a washed out look.
To be honest I don't see this as a problem as I just up the colour settings on my samsung and you soon forget it looks that way. (also, if you are gonna get the vga cable, get the ms one. I first brought a cheap one and I had pixel doubling.
Hope this helps
Its really funny how after spending $1000 I am not a loser. And yet if I spend $600 I am considered a loser. Oh did I forget to mention that PS3 does not have a HDMI cable, you need to buy it separately. I can completely 'not' understand the logic behind making a system Hi-Def and then forcing people to buy accessories to make use of that feature. Atleast with the new Xbox it provides an HDMI port + cable so I dont have to go looking for a new one. All those who bought a PS3 must really be happy with the only one game that has received any positive reaction. All us Xbox losers have over 150 games to choose from. I guess we are the losers here. Oh and did I fail to mention that for $1000 I can get both an Elite and a Wii.
i no i am now woryed i slaged the ps3 off for a year to all my maits who wouldnt buy a 360 and was waiting for the ps3. after all this elite crap how much more money do i spend i think iv spent inuf allready this is just craping on all us 360 fans i was in the shop on lounch night at midnight maby i shoudent of botherd if i would of nown about this elite comeing out a year later i would of just waited and how can i argu that the ps3 is to dear when now it atchaly cheeper if you comper to what you get stright out the box i am guted about this
I failed to mention that I am talking about Australian Dollars.
What is all this yup about havin' a blue ray or HD drive? For the PS3 dum dums if blue ray happens to loose the war in this format war think about the loss. Thats the most important reason as to why MS is not putting its eggs in one basket. Additionally you can get HD movies via live which PS3 DOESN'T offer. IPTV will be coming this november to put the final nail in the coffin. Movies, Gaming, Live TV all in one its over for sony.
Escentially, the elite is for rich kids who know what the best console choice is on the market. I don't have an hd tv but I have a 360 (pro) and the idea of buying a ps3 was just kinda silly. All Ps3 has above 360 (elite that is) is built in wi-fi (which you don't really need if you have ethernet cord) and blu-ray. Although blu-ray has so far beaten hd dvd, it doesn't mean it's a won fight. HD dvd will be the choice of computer drive whereas blu-ray will be movies. Is it just me or does the 120gig harddrive (twice the size of sony's largest ps3 drive[60gigs]) out weigh blu-ray? (yes it does) With so much space you can merely download entire hd movies through xbox live and save them on it. If you have the money, then buy an elite. It's an invesment.
For those wondering if HDMI will make a difference in picture quality:
It is really up to the viewer. Some people CAN see a difference, while others can't. If you can't, then you don't need HDMI.
That's the rule of thumb also with generic cables and MONSTERS brand cables... if YOU can tell a difference, then go for the higher end once. If you can't, then its pointless.
Ok...good, logical points.
The only thing I was concerned with is the compatability of the premium XBOX360 for the future use with IPTV. It seems this is a feature they are pushing with the Elite version. If the premium will do what the Elite package does in this regard then everything you've said holds true.
I'll buy the 120 HDD but I have already taken my premium 360 and stepped it up to HDMI by buying a switch device. It's a device, a little black box, that has one side for the input of the VGA from the analog 360 and the other side has a HDMI output to go to my HDTV. In converts the analog signal to digital & it looks great. I also have the HD-DVD player add on and you can truly see a difference. The switch cost me $189.00 therefore saving me from trying to sell my current 360 for at best $150 and then having to spend the $479 on this new elite.
No, it doesnt come with a hd drive. Here's why.... Peter Moore said that he wants to give consumers a choice on whether they want it or not... if they included it in the 360, they would have to increase the price, and some people just want to play games. So no, you stil have to buy the hd dvd.
If you want 1080p TRUE HD on your TV, the best way to do it is to use an HDMI cable. Only a few TVs support 1080p over VGA and almost none support it over component.
'Hector Mar 30th, 2007 - 23:57:14
For those wondering if HDMI will make a difference in picture quality:
It is really up to the viewer. Some people CAN see a difference, while others can't. If you can't, then you don't need HDMI.
That's the rule of thumb also with generic cables and MONSTERS brand cables... if YOU can tell a difference, then go for the higher end once. If you can't, then its pointless.'
SO HECTOR- you are wrong, the difference between 720p and 1080p is huge for HD DVDs.
More than a year and I still have 8 gigs free on my HDD.
None of my better than HD lcd monitors accept HDMI and I think VGA looks great @ 1080p.
The Black looks cool but so does the white.
Could have used a 65nm new redisgned Mobo but I guess that will be in another year.
Sent my machine back three, yes three times, so I got a two year warranty this time.
Guess I'll have to wait 6 or so months for this one to blow and see which one I get.
Reduce the price.
i have tv that use hdmi but have the premie x360 will they make special cable sold separately for that situation?
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'''PLAYSTATION 3 SUCKS'''
The 360 doesn't not have 150 great games that people care about. I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but in the 'real world' the XBOX 360 library only has about 15 games worth buying, compared to the 5 on the PS3. And last time I checked the PS3's launch game Resistance reached 1 million sold faster than any XBOX 360 launch game.
The Elite sucks. Plain & simple. Its a waste of production, shuns me as a 360 owner wanting to enjoy the IPTV experience, and literally makes the PS3 future-proof.
Blu-Ray will win the format war because of Spiderman 3. Sony is not making a mistake by any means. HD-DVD has barely any highly anticipated movie titles coming for its format. You'll see when the movie is released how much of an impact its going to have on sales. Spiderman 3 will get this stupid war over with.
do 360 elite is a hd dvd player?
To Magarmuch:
You’re kidding me right? … your sarcasm actually comes off as pretty lame really! … I don't think you should speak on behalf of the rest of us 360 owners either!
The more I read your posting the more it sounding like someone taking “clips” of other peoples opinions and putting them all together under their own name … I mean, at least be original about your sarcasm.
So you don’t get an HDMI cable with the PS3? … so what, did you get one with your 360 when you bought it? … because I sure as hell didn’t get one with mine! … as for your quip on why would you build something into a machine and then not provide the extras to use it! – can I just say that just because women have breasts, it doesn’t mean they’re going to have children! … and, when was the last time you bought a TV and not an aerial/antenna for it? … and yet look at the back of it … what do you see? … I think you’ll find it’s a plug for an ariel/antenna?! … how dare they?! - your argument here is again what many others have tried to raise, and yet, not many others [especially those who have purchased a PS3], really give a rats ass about!
Also, can I please ask where you are living?! … because I distinctly remember when I got my 360 [on launch], there was pretty much jack quality games to play! … in fact, other than Oblivion, it wasn’t until Gears of War and Lost Planet came out that I actually really thought the 360 was finally living up to the hype! … you must have had some killer games in your city when the 360 released there?
I assume the ONE PS3 game you’re referring to is Resistance: Fall of Man? … good game alright! … might be just one game, but its at release, and its still probably as good as Gears of War and Lost Planet! … imagine what the PS3 games will look like in a year? … you know, if we were being fair and all about the fact that we’ve given the 360 a years grace? – again, I think your supposed “wanna be funny” sarcasm has simply pointed out that at least PS3 owners have a decent game at release! …
And yes, I guess you did mention that for $1000 you can get an Elite and a Wii … so why don’t you?! … but you also seem to have overlooked mentioning that once you get both your Elite and your Wii [which by the way I really enjoy playing also], you’ll then have to sign up online if you’re wanting to experience any of this? … where as for those of us who own a PS3, its just a matter of hooking it up … via WiFi even? … which I see you also failed to mention when singing the Elite praises? … I thought this would have been a given by now?
So yes, the PS3 is more expensive. But at least if you’re going to take a dig at something, please try and make it original.
I own a 360 and love it. I also now own a PS3 and have made the decision to move my 360 out of my room and put in my 2 year old sons room! … not much point in throwing it out aye?
What's piss me off is that 'Elite' 360 for $480, shouldn't xbox be cheaper by now?? Elite should be $400 and premium and core cheaper. I mean, just because PS3 is $500-$600 they don't want to low the price, MS can sell cheaper, that's stealing. After a year and half the price is the same and now with another model, I’m sorry MS, I was waiting for a better price but I’ll buy a PS3 now.
in response to Apple 'Tard or what ever he called himself, the 360 may have the crappy power supply, but at least 360s don't melt or catch on fire. and no ur wrong about the grafx 2. so far ps3 launch titles have had worse grafx than the 360 launch titles, and 360 grafx are much better than they were at launch. and as for no internal hi-def drive, when u buy a ps3 u have 2 spend more $ because ur paying for HD drive, and if u just want 2 play games u still have 2 buy and HD drive. but with the 360, those who just want 2 play games can buy the 360, and those who want 2 watch movies can spend the extra $ and get the HD drive.
Summary: ps3 sucks balls, xbox 360 kicks a**
hey there should be a core black xbox 360
I already have a 360... and I'm dead broke. There's no way I'm getting an M2 right out of the box, so I was wondering if it's at all possible to upgrade your 360 for less money, or trade in your Premium with say... $200 for an Elite? I really need some answers here, One more question, is the Elite less noisey? That'd be awesome.
I've got a new Sony 55 inch LCOS tv. It only does 1080p through the hdmi port. Its a must for me because my tv doesn't do 1080p through component.
since I had not planned on getting the 360 until Fable 2 comes out, this is the one i'll be getting :)
hey , he is a mac huy he doesnt know what he is saying so be nice to him, he is what they call 'mentally challenged' or tard for short.
Dear Magarmuch,
Not everybody has an HDMI capable monitor or television. Forcing them to purchase the cable with the system is more criminal than making them buy it separately after the fact. Yes it is silly for Sony to push the graphics of their system and then not offer the cable, but for those who don't have an HDTV (and there are a few of us still out there) it's perfectly reasonable. Maybe it's my loss that I don't have or cannot afford a nicer tv, but atleast I won't be forced into buying the cables for it when I purchase a PS3.
Sincerely,
The poor college student
Can you don't put such an idiotically big advertisement that blog the contents... Our patience have limit you know....
There is no PS3 30 GB version...it's 20 GB. At least get your facts straight when writing an article...
This thing is garbage. The Xbox pro is a good system, but this is nothing but a waste of money and a rushed attempt at trying to compete with the PS3. They even went black...how much more obvious do you guys need it?
The addition of HDMI and a bigger HDD is good, but in the end the PS3 is still a better value (at least after a year or two of software titles building up). I'd call this a kneejerk reaction to the Xbox showing its age.
First timers will buy this, but anyone else upgrading is flushing money.
HDMI cables can be bought for under $10. It's been proven there's no difference between a high priced like Monster and a budget one.
Hit up www.monoprice.com for cheap cables.
they forget to mention it had a quieter DVD drive, anyone who uses the 360 as a dvd player will know it sounds like its about to take off... so that could be a fairly good reason if you can sell your current one on ebay for a good price
I think that they should add a hd drive while because even though the it has the 120 Gb no one will really waste it.
elite will sell out and this may help the 360 in the consle race
Yes, the Elite 360 will come with a 120 gigbyte hard drive. The hard drive will be external and removable. Also the Elite 360 doesn't look and worse then the original 360...unless you hate the color, but then you wouldn't be saying the black PS3 looks better would you? This new 360 should be neat to see I hope to get on sometime seeing how I still haven't gotten a 360 yet.
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elite sucks its still the same as a premium the only diff is it has 120GB i dont need 120GB,and for some reason if i deside to get higher space on my ps3 then i will go higher then 120GB so fuck 120GB it suck,
2. i feel so sorry for who ever owns x360 if they deside to get 360 elite they have to sell their 360 premium for lot less then wat they paid,like 150$ getting 360 elite for 500$ thats already more then ps3s price lol.
3. who ever wants to increase their space on their premiums they have to spend 180$ for 120GB 400$+180$ plus tax thats already ps3s price right there how patetic
4.u patetic people r willing to pay lots of money for gayest system x360 elite just so u can play halo wow lol not even jail has so many dumb people that U.S has
personally i relli liked my 360.
but since buying a PS3 i hav found that they are alot better and much better value than the 'elite'. The elite is just Microsoft trying to catch up...
the elite is a good buy only for the people that donot own a 360 like me who bought this system rocks.
I sold my 360 elite for a ps3. And i like the ps3 a billion times better. All the games on the 360 were terrible except gears of war. Halo 2 online is gay and Halo 3 beta is terrible. FPS should be on the computer where it belongs. Cant wait for ff13.
If your saying its a rip off your way off, it comes with a 120 gig hard drive ( $170 ) and an HDMI cable Most likely around $50, for $70 more than the normal 360 pro? damn good deal!
Hi! I have a premium xbox and am currently in the process of buying a 1080p HD TV. I was told by the bloke in currys thet i can use cables to convert my premium box to 1080p without having to buy an elite!
Is this the case?
Thanks
i have a hd tv but its not hdmi will i have improved graphics with the elite?or not!
Video gammers a funny thing because the system is gonna get upgraded in another month or two. So if I woud want a game system it would be the Xbox 360 elite because most of the games that are coming out for ps3 are also coming out for Xbox 360 but the games that come out for xbox 360 won't(most of the games) come out for ps3. So its an easy decision for me Xbox 360 elite. Oh yeah the reason the ps3 don't include the hi-def cords is because they want you spend even more on it. Yeah and all that adds up to 900$ somewhere around there. i
Thats nice, I dont care what game I get. I need a system bad :) but if I had to choose I would choose the Xbox because my cousin has one. If any of you guys feel like in in a donating mood help me get me 360 free from www. 3604free.com /index.php?ref=3872089 remove the spaces
I am desperate over here :( I wish I can be in debates about which system is better but I can't :(
Well nevermind me I guess I'll just have to imagine how it feels to know you have a good gaming system.
It uses a 65nm processer instead of the idiotic 90nm one that core and premium use.
i really don't see a problem with the external HD-DVD drive, because just if Bluray wins, all microsoft has to do is sell an external Blueray drive for the current users, and eventually put it in a newer model. M$ may be backing HD-DVD, but M$ Game Studios are smart, and cautious.
I have a Wii and a PS2, but will get an elite next week, and I will be LOVIN it. :)
YO YO YO Homy G's Im out to get my first Xbox 360 and I think the Elite is a good pick. But is what everything that comes in the package enough to get it running on a ordinary flat screen TV?
Hey, I am looking at getting my first Xbox 360 and I was looking at getting the 'Elite'. Is it a good choice for someone who is just getting their first Xbox? Also, I was wondering, does this play blu-rays, or just regular dvds?
I reaallly want one of these but im not going to get one because I already have a 360. Save my money for all the good games coming out: saints row 2, fable 2 gears 2 :)
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So then people can you help clear this up. i'm looking at buying the xbox 360 elite as i need the hdmi output but i want to connect my own hard disk drive to it. Is it possible?
Um i am the first person to write a comment in 2009, so....the xbox elite is now 400$ maybe sometimes 388$ and sometimes even cheaper!!
the xbox elite is cheaper now man i want one so bad!!!!
I was just wondering, if there's a point to buy an elite and hd cable, if I have a HD-ready TV, will it have a difference then? Will the cable work?
Anybody knows? I think if the cable doesn't work its more useful to buy 360 pro then, cause its cheaper.
Does cable works only with full HD-Tvs? or HD ready too?
well i feel having the elite that it is a better console- but mine has broken down long long long befor it should have ! i have had it for only 10 months !! so its not as reliable as they say - happy gaaming
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