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By Stevie Smith Jun 22, 2008, 17:43 GMT

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Review (PS3)


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MybackhurtsJun 23rd, 2008 - 00:06:49

Oh and btw, I got a freaking BACKACHE just WATCHING my char on screen hunched over plodding around like a moron.

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antoine08Jun 23rd, 2008 - 00:18:41

I had to lol at this authors low score of MGS4 after reading his other reviews such as the one on ralphie mae, it is very clear he is an x-box 360 fanboy that is POed it wont be coming out for his system.



I have both systems so my loyalties lie with no one. I can honestly say that mgs4 is one of the best games of all time and deserves nothing under high 9's.
When Gamespot gives MGS4 a 10 (only its 6th one in12 years)you know the game deserves it.

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w.k.hunterJun 23rd, 2008 - 00:29:42

Are you sure you played Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots? I have played games for 22yrs now, and MGS4 easily ranks at or darn near the top of the heap. The cinematics are all extremely well done, and do nothing in any way take away from the also excellent gameplay. From what I've read from the comments on your article, that feeling is nearly unanimous. I don't know what rock you crawled out from under to review this masterpiece. Maybe you're a 360 fanboy. Either way, your writing shows your complete gaming ignorance.

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I agreeJun 23rd, 2008 - 00:35:14

The game feels like one of those cavernous Chinese buffets. Everything under one roof, but each selection barely average.

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OllieJun 23rd, 2008 - 00:47:09

You should have known before playing the game that cutscenes would play a huge part. Those who are tolerant of it and have played the previous games can reverse the score. 97%, easily.

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All'sfairJun 23rd, 2008 - 00:50:31

I thought the review was fine. Having read plenty of reviews for this title it sounds like everyone agrees this is an excellent title for some people. The reviewer touched on some points that I tend to agree with in terms of the MGS series. The use of cut scenes is tedious and self-indulgent, and also don't make sense to the average gamer. But then again MGS is part of a niche market, I have met very few who think the game series is just 'okay.' The people who like MGS are zealous, as are many devout fans of any given series.

The reviewer is entitled to his opinion, after all we have played games, seen movies and bought products juxtaposed to reviews. I walk away with this sense from the review: The hardcore should be happy, and the average gamer should be wary.

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The comments here are fantasticJun 23rd, 2008 - 01:30:12

Gamespot and IGN TRUSTWORTHY? What?

The sites give whatever review the publisher pays them to give.

+2 to the guy that said reviewer should quite his job. Excellent.

The first 5 hours of the game you barely play the game, and what you do play just isn't that great.

Where did it become written down that 80% was a bad score. its 8/10. A 10/10 game means its perfect. Nothing could be improved. Everyone everywhere likes this game.

Games with more cutscene time than gameplay have issues. There are 2 parts to telling a great story. 1 is having a good story to tell, 2 is how you tell it. Taking 10 hours to tell a 25 minute story isn't good storytelling, its just ego-stroking.

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DonJun 23rd, 2008 - 01:40:13

I'm I right in saying that the people that most agree with those joke of a reviewer is that the cut scenes were to long? I'm I also right in the fact that you can skip every cut scene? It would seem to me that the reviewer and everyone that agrees with him didn't actually play the game. So were does that led us to. Well I say ignore the lot never visit this site again and move on to more legit reviews in the future.

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BobJun 23rd, 2008 - 01:41:19

Lol all the sony fanboys bawwing cause a crappy game got a bad review

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lachlanJun 23rd, 2008 - 01:43:43

i hate cutscene's longer than 30 seconds. this game sounds like torture because you'd skip all the story, play the game quicker and miss out on everything people are raving about.

i prefer games before movies.

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LiquidJun 23rd, 2008 - 01:56:42

79% are you kidding me! 1 in 10 will dislike this game because of its excessively long cutscenes. I'm sure if Kojima put maybe 5 min total of storyline the reviews for this game would be 98-100% all across the board. It would keep all the simple minded and the casual gamers happy.
You forget about the previous Metal gear games on cd and dvd formats, that you would have to hear or read the storyline on pages and pages and pages of scrolling text. I don't think I remember anyone complaining about that back then, but anyways I'd take hours and hours of cutscenes over watching text scrolling on a screen via codec ANY DAY! Thank you Blu-Ray....
The game is not worth the money for the casual gamer because there is not enough game play and too much story, Stevie Smith says. Well, he forgets to mention about the online game play where you can have hours and hours of more fun with no CUTSCENES and test your skill vs. real gamers. MG4 is a lot easier on normal mode than the previous metal gears I must admit so i'd encourage everyone to play it on the hard difficulty.

Anyone who reads this article as their first MG4 review should go to more experienced gaming sites like IGN, Gamespot, game pro, etc. where this game is a little more appreciated for it's original gameplay, unique design and creative storytelling. Stevie really should give Kojima's/Konami's masterpiece a little more credit. A casual gamer like Stevie should stick to playing and reviewing games like mario kart.
BTW, MG4 has an avg. a Meta score of 96% so far.

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JamesonJun 23rd, 2008 - 02:10:15

It is one thing for reviewers to bow down to popular opinion, which you suggest, and another thing to go against popular opinion for the sole reason of being noticed. In your case, you clearly fall on the latter, and kudos to you for bringing such heavy traffic in your otherwise worthless post. IGN, EGM, gamespot, and all review sites clearly gave the game a score which the game may deserve or not. But it is very clear that the game does not deserve a 79%.

You assume clearly that metal gear solid may be half movie and half game, but in al honesty, if you hate the cutscenes ao much, why not ignore them and give a score based on a gameplay perspective? Why do you knock off a game just because it has long cutscenes? Your argument is ridiculous. Do you mean to say that MGS would have been better if the cutscenes weren't there? For christ sake heres a suggestion: don't watch them ! The cutscenes are for the fans waiting for some resolution of an otherwise convulted plot established for the series' last 5 games! I would rather watch the cutscenes in MGS than the pathetic excuse for an ending that is HALo 3.

If you strip down MGS of all its cutscenes, you are still left with a 10 hour game thats even longer than call of duty 4 or halo 3; which got all heaps of praises last year despite short and disappointing single player campaigns. The single player in MGS is longer and more varied that both HALO 3 and call of duty 4 put together....

Oh, and ever wondered why your review is not included in metacritic? ITs because its horribly biased. Way to sell your credibility for $5 bucks to microsoft. I think microsoft regrets now ever paying you the 5 bucks since your review does not count on metacritic.

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PhlipperJun 23rd, 2008 - 02:27:59

Nice review. It's about time someone said what I've been thinking all along. This game is horrible. The other MGS games were horrible. Ruined is the right word. Well said.

;-P

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ThejugglingbumJun 23rd, 2008 - 02:42:57

What a joke of a review. Yeah Metal Gear Solid 4 has long cutscenes but the game is a work of art and is one of the best games I ever played. The scenes in question may have been longer than a usual game but they were necessary and highly, highly, entertaining. It was only until a cutscene was over did I realize how long it was. This is the first and last time I'm visiting this site. You clearly have no idea what your doing.

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RichardJun 23rd, 2008 - 04:02:00

This review is a joke. Maybe the reviewer is more cut out to review things like toothpaste or deoderant because he obviously cannot see a masterpiece when it is sitting in front of him.

This is the same guy who gave that garbage 'Army of Two' an 80%?

I will NEVER frequent this site again.

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RichardJun 23rd, 2008 - 04:04:33

In fact, I am going to be sending e-mails to the editor of this website suggesting that he ditch this particular reviewer, I hope everyone else would do the same.

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jergarmarJun 23rd, 2008 - 04:20:27

Heh... it's funny that this review is getting such heat. The author repeatedly praises the game elements, but doesn't like the interminable cutscenes. I've read several reviews that say the same thing, but apparently the '79%' is why people are up in arms. What's even more amusing is that some comments doubt the author's 'qualifications' to review a video game.

C'mon people, it's just a number! If you buy a game on the 'Metacritic' value alone, without actually reading the reviews, I can only suggest that you start thinking for yourself. Agree or disagree with what he says, not with the arbitrary number.

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IganciousJun 23rd, 2008 - 06:54:08

This is the first Metal Gear game I have ever played and didn't even look at the other ones. I picked it up because I heard great things about it. I must say this has got to be one of the greatest games I have probably ever played. The cut scenes give it depth and my wife who never watches the games I play sat through the whole thing, she loved it. I even went out and got all the other Metal Gear games I could find, even the PsP version. I do not think the review you gave it was fair at all. Should add around 20 more points to it.

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TeddyJun 23rd, 2008 - 07:03:01

Wow, a bunch of people who don't frequent this website threatening to take their traffic elsewhere.

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Brian MeidellJun 23rd, 2008 - 07:08:57

Finally, a review that is written by someone that tries to be somewhat objective about this games qualities. Every other review I've seen seems to be written by Hideo Kojima fanboys who had already pretty much decided on the score before they played the game.

MGS4 is really good, but it's not 10/10 by a long shot, and the problems I have with it are exactly the ones you list here.

Good review, thanks.

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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

A PLAYSTATION 3 exclusive, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the final chapter in the saga of Solid Snake, which sends him around the world in pursuit ...more

  • US Release: 2008-06-12
  • UK Release: 2008-06-12

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