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By Stevie Smith Jan 3, 2008, 8:37 GMT
Konami officially quashes 'MGS4 on Xbox 360' claim
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Anyone saying money was not an issue is a pure idiot. This is business we are talking about, and a multi million dollar one at that. Do you people really think that Mr. Kojima would knowingly sell less copies of his game because he wanted to remain loyal to sony? BULLSHIT! Sony either actually ponied up enough cash to make up for what would be lost from the 360 sales, or, this is business marketing at its finest and MGS4 will be a timed exclusive. Loyalty had absolutey nothing to do with this, it is all about money. In business it always has been, and always will be all about money. It doesn't matter how the public relations spins it.
my comment was also directed at the first comment
Steriotypical 360 fanboy: 'Oh I is playing Halo 3 on my 360 so I pwnzers j00. I want mettl gear solid 4 tho because it looks awesome like the desert level of halo and I still sa that master cheif can beet Solid Snake B-cuz Master cheef is a robot and Solid snake is a old man on a walker. luzl'
Steriotypical PS3 fanboy: 'Hey 360 faggots go play halo and beat off we're getting Metal Gear and you're not so go cry to your mommas who we did last night. We're the more mature so we deserve it.'
The wii people have no say in this because it sucks in the eyes of many because it doesn't have the typical 'shadows' and 'pretty lights' of the next gen consoles, but it manages to be fun. People cannot process that and therefore their puny brains tell them to slam on it.
Morons. I got a PS3 for MGS4, God of War 3, Kingdom Hearts 3, etcetra.
I got a 360 for Mass Effect, Halo 3, Bioshock, Oblivion, etcetra.
Where am I going with this? I hope you all can understand this. I really do. Because I'm going to explain this in simple terms:
All of the consoles are evenly balanced.
Now. I can hear the comebacks, and confusion whirring in your minds. So let me explain further. The 360 has a balanced set, fair price to the working class person, good games. The PS3 recently was given the same treatment at the expense of Back-Compatability, which doesn't matter since I have a Ps2 and am actually still content playing my games on it.
So, fanboys who want MGS4 on the 360, even though there aren't any plans right now for it to happen, there's a simple solution to your problem:
Put your animosity for the giant, black console with the silver lettering on it aside, and buy a PS3, damnit.
It's as simple as that. That's what I did. Hell, sometimes I think I'm the only person around who's NEUTRAL when it comes to consoles. I don't care what other's think, I don't care what kind of neat things you have on your consoles. I have Halo 3. I have Mass Effect. Those are 360 games. I do not believe they're coming to the PS3. So keep on crying, PS3 fanboys.
I have a PS3. I admit the selection is thin right now but when the big games, like MGS4 and God of War 3 come out, I'll sit back and smirk at the people who continuously cry and moan about them not coming to the 360. So, keep on crying, 360 fanboys.
And at least let a FEW people appreciate having a console EXCLUSIVE game for once.
^^^^^tl;dr. Please, just keep your bull**** to yourself ok, mr. 'I'm the only neutral person here.' The people starting at raiden and down were the ones who were neutral. You're just a 360 faggot like all the others here. Seriously, they are the most annoying people here (and I'm not partial towards anyone either). Here's what I have to say:
360 faggots: Be happy with what you have, and shut the hell up. Don't cry just because you lost your chance to run sony out of business.
ps3 guys: You guys can be happy, but you know what? You guys are putting yourselves in the same mentality as the others. So you're no better than them like that. But at least most of you guys use facts to flame the 360, even though that's not right.
wii guys: Just stay away from this thread, because when a guy it's for 12 year olds, you started to flame him. So what if he thinks that? he can go to hell for all I care.
I don't care because:
1. This is all childish
2. I own all three systems.
You guys can stay like children. I don't why I posted this even.
oh yes, and in case you didn't know why I called you a 360 faggot, it is because out of all the bs fights over consoles I read, the ps3 people don't seem to care about games like bioshock or forza motorsport 2. They didn't complain as much as these 360 faggots here. also, bioshock and gears of war are for PC, and Halo 3 will come to PC.
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh xbox fans wont get mgs4 jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaj ps3 rocksssssssssss
While I've been a fan of the MGS series all along - I'm not going to buy a PS3 just to play it. Chances are it'll come out on 360 soon enough, and everyone will be happy.
Would you snap out of your state in denial? It's not coming for xbox 360. period.
I'm going to still bank on a 360 release coming out eventually. So far every MGS title has been ported over to other consoles. Even the original 'Metal Gear' titles on the NES were ports. From a business perspective, it doesn't make sense to basically cut profits in half by remaining exclusive to one console. My guess is that, like the other 'ps2 exclusive' MGS games, as soon as sales and interest drop, you're gonna start reading headlines about MGS on the 360, and what extras they're adding in. Konami has never remained loyal to Sony, and I remember getting frustrated at that when I was a sony loyalist. You can't argue with history.
did konami release metal gear canon games for other systems besides playstation? no (the gamecube remake was made by silicon knights, not konami). now snap out of your state in denial.
seriously, 360 fanboys are in serious denial.
lets break it down ok...
ITS
NOT
COMING
OUT
FOR
X-BOX
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....
EVER...
all you guys really have as a excuse is why MGS4 would sell more on XBox... yet you fanboys fail to realize that the Xbox cannot handle the graphics and AI needed to run the game. The camouflage in Snakes suit usues PS3 only hardware.
either way, get it thru your heads. Its not comming out for xbox ever.
im sick and tired of fan boys they make ppl look bad not every x360 ps3 or wii owner is a jackass and as much as i want mgs4 to end on a sony console who cares if it doesnt
oh wait fanboys do
who cares if it doesn't yeah. Bu the annoying thing is why the 360 fanboy losers keep arguing and making s*** up.
Xbox 360 fanboys: accept it for now. Don't bs. just accept it for the time being.
i remember a day when the idea of mario and sonic in the same game was crazy talk, from the local village idiot.
if there is sheds loads of money in it for these people they will release mgs4 on any platform. if anyone is interested in what i think. i think it will come to 360 when the price is right for everyone, because these next gen games cost so much to produce these days that they need a return on there product, and if ps3 isnt selling that great they will sell to 360 to sell more units and take more of our cash. also if i was a a game developer i would want all gamers to play my games, not a select few of sissy boys who think there consol is better tham everyone else.
For a long time now, i've always been wondering what new next gen system to get, i had a gamecube, ps2, and xbox, what happened was that i played my ps2 the most and gamecube the least and xbox in the middle. Finally came the time where its been one year the 360 beens out, and now the ps3 and wii was coming out. I still had the regular 3 systems and now was on the edge of which next gen system to get. So first i compared games i had for each system. 6 on gamcube, best ones were Metal Gear Solid Twin snake and super smash melee and resident evil series. Then 40 games on the ps2 my favorite ones were Metal Gear 2 & 3, the devil may cry series, Gta series, finaly fantasy and a couple of more. Then last came xbox, i had 25 games, my favorite was halo 1,2 and a couple of more shooters such as rainbow six and many more. Now the one thing i hated between having all three systems was which game to get for what system if it works on all three, heres a cheap example nba street. I was always confused which system to get the games on. Also i was the type that would hate to see one system not being used and just sitting there getting dusted. So i would try to play each system equally. I never had xbox live only ps2 online. Now came the time where i decide what next gen system to get. I looked at the wii, not my type, i love how you move your hands, but all the games that were coming out were mario and abunch of rated e games, plus i only had 6 games for the gamcube. So that tells you that i didn't like the nintendo company. Now came up to the ps3 and the xbox 360, even though i had more ps2 games then the xbox and played my ps2 more i was screwed because when the ps3 first came out it was too expensive and i couldn't afford it. I look at games as all of you people mentioned, MGS 4 for the ps4, Killzone 2, devil may cry, and final fanatasy. Then for the 360, gears of war, halo 3,now devil may cry 4 for it, resident evil 5 also, rainbow six vegas. Now from that i had to think what i can afford, also i play with my friends alot and alll actually all of them had 360's and had live, only 2 had ps3. So as i finally decided i did what i thought was right for me. I traded in my gamecube and all of its games, gave my ps2 to my cousins cuz they had nothing to play but traded in all of the ps2 games (plus those games were to bad to give to my little cousins anyway) and my xbox and all of its games. Came up with 500 stored credit at gamestop. Went for the xbox 360 and got gears of war for my first game. Now you wonder why pick the xbox, you loved the ps2 and had more games for it, well its true i am more of a sony fan then the microsoft, till i found out all of the games i was into was coming for the xbox 360, Devil May Cry 4,Resident evil 5, GTA IV, Raunbow Six vegas and vegas 2, splinter cell and many more. I looked back at the ps3 and see what i was missing, just finaly fantasy and metal gear 4. I said to myself i can live without final fantasy, but metal gear, man that was a amazing series to play with and by far i think its the best. The mgs games were always and still is to this day my favorite game ever. Now look i am not here to talk crap at all about any of these companies, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintnedo. I just went for what my liking were and it all worked on the 360, besides that like i said i play with my friends alot on live, and its fun. Now the problem is and i am asking all you fanboys, as also am i 2, what should i do, the whole point of next gen for me was to pick only one system out of all three and stick to it. Because now everything is expensive and i can't keep up with two systems and still buy games, plus now it takes that pressure on my on which game to get for which system such as cod4 and many more. I picked the xbox 360 and am very very happy with it, the games are fun, i get to play with all of my friends, and it provides me with all the hardcore m rated shooters and everything i am into. Now you may look at me and say well you should of just saved your 500 store credit and went for the ps3 if you wanted MGS4 that bad, well the point is, is that i didn't and i dont regret not doing so cuz i am fully satisfied with the 360. Now look my main point here is what should i do, should i wait one year for the MGS 4 to come on to 360 or just save up money for the ps3 even though the only game i will play is MGS 4 and nothing else, maybe just Final Fanatasy and thats it. My only regret will be buying a ps3 just for 2 games that i like, i'm not saying that its only good for 2 games but for what i'm into it is. Now look im not rich or anything, im in the middle class and am asking you guys for advice, this whole story i mentioned is for you guys to understand i am a normal gamer and don't go buy different systems and give crap to others, cuz i thinks it worthless and its childish. All i'm asking is what should i do, wait one year or go for it, even though i don't have the money now but i can save, it will take time. Because i already got everything i want for me, i already reserved devil may cry 4, rainbow six vegas 2, GTA IV, unreal tournament III, resident evil 5, for the xbox 360. So just give it to me, I Love MGS alot, and want to know from you guys if you guys thinks its worth for me to buy a ps3 Just i mean just for that game. Because its screwed with me for soo long and i wlays kept on telling myself no no no because i agreed to myself for one console because everything is now expensive. But like that one guy said we don't know for sure if it will or will not come to the 360, because now in days everything is just business at fisrt i thought it was loyalty but i guessed wrong, look what happened, resident evil 4 gamecube exclusiv almost 6 months later now on ps2. Devil may cry and resident evil on the 360? even though there were never any devil may cry or resident evil games at all for the xbox and now lost planet for the ps3. See things change, i want advice from the ones who can understand me, not a ps3 fanboy or an xbox360 fan boy but someone who is in the same situation as me. Also if this helps on the advice i have no use for blu ray so please don't say blu ray because i will not pay 30 dollars for a movie, if anything just for MGS 4. thank you every one for listening to this. This is my first time to write one of these and i never usually do, this shows how i'm in a puzzle and need help, don;t forget that i am on no one sides for companies neither sony, microsoft, or nintendo, i'm not here to talk crap just ask for advice
^^^^tl;dr. and as for the guy before him, shut up. Just shut up. God, we're not trying to say that haha the ps3 is better, because that's not true. What we're saying is you need to accept it for now. Stop bullshitting that oh no you'll see, it will come out with more add-ons. Only Kojima can decide that. So shut your f'n mouths. Snap out of your state in denial. ACCEPT IT!!!!!! A-C-C-E-P-T I-T.
wow....I can't believe xbox fans are trying to tempt Konami this much to get MGS 4 on xbox 360. When will they ever learn....Hideo Kojima hates the xbox 360, can't you morons figure that out?
Grow up the lot of you, all this pathetic fanboy stuff is idiotic, for god sake, grow up and get a life, instead of worshiping consoles. I love playing games as much as the next guy, but you dont find me bumming my consoles.... in conclusion... GROW UP
I don't normally post like this, but after reading all of the comments, I felt I needed to add my two cents(sense?)...
As a thirty year old gamer, and a video game store manager, I have been playing video games since the days of the Commadore64 and the Intellivision. I've seen consoles and franchises come and go, and even remember the wars between SNES fanboys and Genesis fanboys...Saturn and Playstation for that matter..or Dreamcast and PS2 if you like.
The war between exclusivity, and the rumors, and PR announcements...I've seen it all before, and have a keen observation to point out.
Konami is an old fashion Japanese company. Now I know here in America loyalty, and honor might not mean much in a business sense, after all 'hand-shake' deals are really a thing of the past here. But in Japan, a deal of loyalty, and tradition, of honor (and most importantly stock options) hold more weight that units sold.
Kojima-san was quoted as saying (in the first cover story of MGS4 in Game Informer), 'I would like to work with the 360, but if I did, it wouldn't be a Metal Gear Solid game.' When asked about a possible port of the game to 360 he said this, 'the Playstation console defined Metal Gear Solid, and Metal Gear Solid helped define the Playstation. IN a way, the Playstation in responsible for the success of Metal Gear Solid.' And on their MGS4 website mission statement it says, 'MGS4 is the battle ground for the next-gen console war...wil Shinkawa, Murata, and Kojima (the directers)be able to breathe life into Sony's war machine the Playstation 3?'
Konami made a deal with Sony for the exclusivity of MGS4. Kojima is loyal to the Playstations brand name...and not too mention the fact that Sony owns stock in Konami, and Konami owns stock in Sony. JUust like Sony owns stock in SquareEnix, and SquareEnix owns stock in Sony...hence the Final Fantasy series, and Kingdom Hearts (the flagship titles for KH) are to remain Playstation exclusives indefinately, the Meat Gear Solid franchise will remain on Sony consoles. Yes MGS twinv snakes came out on GameCube...and it sold terribly. MGS2 Substance came out on XBOX..and again sold almost nothing. that's why you didn't see any other MGS games on any other consoles. MGS3 didn't come out on anything else, and it never will, because the contracts signed specifically state so.
Again,Japanese companies practice different business than American companies. Japan is an entirely different culture from here boys and girls, you can't possibly hope to understand it until you've lived there (like I have)...
And last but not least, let's look at the quote itself. In the past in a company wanted to remain secrative about a port onto a different system (like Devil May Cry 4) the company makes an announcment with the words 'As of this time...' somewhere in the announcment. 'As of this time game X is PS3 exclusive....' or ' As of this time we have no plans to make Game X of the 360...' Michael Shelling didn't say anything like that. Capcom did when talking about Resident Evil % and Devil MAy Cry 4, but only while Ken Kutaragi was head of Sony. After the announcment of these games going multi-platform he lost his job becaue he wouldn't play hard ball. After he left Sony started doing something they've NEVER done in the past...throwing down 'money hats', or large sums of money to game developers to make their game exclusive...av practice Microsoft is notorious for (which is an American practice in origin...hence why Japanese companies don't regularly if at all practice this).
And my final point, is that the rumors of MGS4 on 360 are always coming up around the time MGS4 is rumored to be either coming out, or a demo is coming out, or it's nearing completion..whenever an new news about MGS4 comes out, there's a rumor that's always reported first by a Microsoft loyal website or magazine. It's timed rumour mongering by Microsoft to try and discourage hype for a game that they are afraid of because they know it's going to be huge. Microsoft was reported to have attempted to 'persuade' konami with huge sums of money to wrench away exclusivity from Sony, but Konami's sticking to their guns, and allowing Kojima to have the final say with his IP. And Kojima says, 'No'...so Konami says, 'No'...and Son'ys contract in air tight either way because of mutual financial gain, as well as the previously stated Japanese loyalty.
So to conclude, MGS4 is not coming out for 360, not after it's PS3 release, not a year after, not ever. But watch, right when the demo comes out, or right before it's official release, or right when Kojima Productions comes out of it's self-induced silence...there will be another 'exclusive scoop' from an XBOX loyal site, or magazine that says MGS4 is coming out on 360, and Konami, and Kojima will have to say, yet again, 'Meatl Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a Playstation 3 exclusive title. There are no plans to make an XBOX360 version of this game.'
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