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the debate was child abuseSep 27th, 2008 - 03:43:19

McCain: 'policy, policy, policy'

Obbama: unnh, unnnh, well John, unnnh...

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McCain edged him outSep 27th, 2008 - 03:47:10

McCain made the case that he had the most experience and would not need any on-the-job training as Commander in Chief.McCain more than held his own when the discussion centered on the economy. Obama repeatedly called McCain, 'John.' That struck me as odd, because two Senators in debate would never call each other by their first names.

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No you can'tSep 27th, 2008 - 03:50:03

At debate, McCain needles Obama over faux White House seal
(Abridged)

OXFORD, Miss. - It’s the seal that just keeps on giving.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain needled White House rival Barack Obama again on Friday for using a seal earlier in his campaign that mirrored the one used by the U.S. president. The exchange was prompted by ribbing from Obama over McCain’s refusal to commit to a meeting with the prime minister of Spain if he wins the November 4 election. [...]

McCain, who was in the middle of criticizing Obama for being willing to meet with U.S. foes, reacted sharply.

“I’m not going to set the White House visitors schedule before I’m president of the United States,” he said. “I don’t even have a seal yet.”

The Obama seal, which the Illinois senator used at a campaign event in June, had a picture of a bald eagle on it and an inscribed phrase that read “Vero Possumus,” a Latin expression that roughly translates to the campaign’s slogan, “Yes, we can.”

The seal drew some ridicule for being presumptuous and the campaign never used it again.

blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/09/26/at-debate-mccain-needles-obama-ove r-faux-white-house-seal/

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ShakerSep 27th, 2008 - 03:53:35

McCain looked like a little kid trying to have his last word. He was snide and laughing at Obama's remarks. Obama seemed much more polished and confident. McCain kept delvng into the past to the point of boring.

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Obama got spanked.Sep 27th, 2008 - 03:58:48

'McCain looked like a little kid trying to have his last word.'

Bull, Obama interrupted McCain and even the debate moderator. He just wouldn't shut the hell up when it wasn't his turn.

'He was snide and laughing at Obama's remarks. '

Obama is an idiot who deserves to be laughed at, not that McCain did. John McCain had the decency to refer to Barry Hussein as 'Senator Obama'. BO called Senator McCain 'John'.

'Obama seemed much more polished and confident'

If by that you mean he kept grunting 'unnnnh, unnnnh, unnnnh, unnnnh' then yeah... If you mean that he had anything articulate to say... Nope.

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citizen joeSep 27th, 2008 - 04:03:52

Favorite line...McCain

There are advantages to having experience and knowledge.

I think McCain started out so-so on the economic side, then warmed up. He needs work though; for one thing, needs to look at Obama when going after him.

McCain did hammer him on $900m in earmarks and $800b in new spending. Obam couldn't name a single thing to cut, just the obligatory vague promise to cut failed programs. When's the last time he ever voted against pork or offered up a program to cut?

I just wish McCain would have cut Obama off a few times when Obama kept interrupting. Obama acted childish, frankly I thought McCain won the debate handily in the eye of the public. i'm sure the MSM will gloat over how Obama held his own.

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kevinSep 27th, 2008 - 04:10:21

'i Have a bracelet too,,' THAT was a sneer at McCain's genuine, heartfelt concern for American soldiers,,I hate zerobama even more than ever,,

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MichelleSep 27th, 2008 - 04:19:48

Obama can’t remember the soldier’s name on his bracelet. Look at the video, he had to look at what his bracelet said.

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now that we have heard...Sep 27th, 2008 - 04:54:29

the from the rah-rah team of the lunatic fringe, a real assessment of the debate shows that McCain's real name is McLame.

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BettySep 27th, 2008 - 06:05:46

I thought McCain did better. Obama is so arrogant.

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McCain Wins Round 1Sep 27th, 2008 - 06:20:39


Posted 9/26/2008 10:21 PM CDT on Des Moines Register (Abridged)

It was one of the most substantive debates in recent presidential campaign history and John McCain won it. The Arizona senator was cool, informed and forceful in Friday’s first presidential debate of the general election campaign.

He repeatedly put Barack Obama on the defensive throughout the 90 minutes session. Obama did little to ease voter concerns that he’s experienced enough to handle foreign and defense policy. That was his number one task Friday night and he failed.

Instead he was often his old meandering self, unable to state a quick, forceful position. Polls taken in the coming days should show McCain holding on to his trump card in the race - the view that he’s better equipped to be commander in chief. [...]

McCain’s victory came at a good time for him in the race. He has fumbled around for a week on questions involving the economy and the federal bailout of Wall Street. His vice presidential candidate has become a running joke of late night comedy shows. As a result, his poll numbers sagged.

The debate came against the backdrop of a close presidential election at a time when the country faces its greatest economic crisis since the 1930s and some of its greatest military threats since World War II. The nation’s adversaries - Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Taliban terrorists - seem to be on the ascendancy.

It has rattled Americans and between the two, McCain came off as the most reassuring. The crabby, grumbling, hotheaded McCain was nowhere to be seen. Instead we saw a calm, seasoned commander in chief . If you looked at your television and squinted slightly, you could better picture him addressing the country during a time of national crisis than Obama. Obama was often left flashing his smile and shaking his head at McCain.

McCain was expected to win on questions of foreign policy and national defense. That’s been his background. Where he routed Obama was on economic and spending questions as he repeatedly accusing Obama of using earmarks and wanting to spend too much.

When Obama tried his line about how McCain voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, McCain slapped back by ticking off a lit of issues where he has disagreed with Bush - like torture, conduct of the war in Iraq and federal spending and Guantanamo Bay. McCain never got rattled or flustered, he just constantly stayed focused on the attack.

The only good news for Obama is that any pain from this debate is likely to be short-lived....

www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U =3a

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LindaSep 27th, 2008 - 07:58:30

I thought Obama is better MCcCaine is so arrogant

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BimboSep 27th, 2008 - 08:00:24

McCain can not even remember his own name,he had to look on his name tag ...

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tonny from belgiumSep 27th, 2008 - 08:16:58

Does McCain realy has the edge ove Obama in international politics ?
Consider the biggest blunerd Bush made in his eight years of presidency:the response to the WTC bombing:blaming it on Saddam,lying to you all about that,claiming ties between Saddam and Al Quaida,WMD and all the rest.Not one world leader oside the USA believed Bush on his word ,or believed the silly evidence that was fabricated by the neocons to sabotage the work the UN and Hans Blixen were doing in Iraq .Remeber Hans Blixen complaining that apperently the case for the war waz set no matter wht the UN inspections were to reveal in Iraq ?he was right,you now all know (execept the simpleminded SP4 ) that Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld endthe rest of the neocon plotters ) forged evidence to convince you .So the americans were misled to enter this war .McCain with all his experience swallowed the lies,Obama did not .So who keeps his head cool in circimstances which require careful thinking and wheighing of arguments ?
I do agree that McCain is a honest person however respectable in his choices .He certainly was not part of the plot ,had he known about it ,he probably would have opposed it too ,let us give him the benefit of the doubt .
However in the biggest blunder made by the USA in the last 30 years on the international arena Obama was right and has proven that astute judgment proved to be more accurate than to bow under the tremendous pressure exercised by the neocons and the media during the tragic events that caused this war based on lies .
Remember how those that dared to opose the war plans were labelled traitors and bad patriots in the media ?Remember how even those that should keep their statements objective jumped into the war frenzy and abandonned all restraint to participate in the war ?Obama did not ,he deserves respect for that .
Also I think his understanding of other culturs makes him a better negociator and a more respected leder .McCin carries the weight of his past mistakes regarding Iraq with him .Add to that a poor understanding of the economy and the financial markets and the choice should be clear.

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PhilSep 27th, 2008 - 09:10:02

McCain is bad enough, but just see how they're trying to hide Palin's ignorance.
The real question is 'Can Palin give a coherent answer to anything ?

Example-... your foreign-policy credentials... ? 'Well...our next door neighbours are foreign countries.'

Could someone explain how a neighbouring country is not a foreign country ? What does she think it is - another state of the USA ?

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Support Our CauseSep 27th, 2008 - 09:32:06

May America endure the tough times ahead and may the next President (whoever it is) lead us to do the right things, the just things, the truly great things.

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AndySep 27th, 2008 - 10:42:03

While America's domestic attention has been on the puerile squabbling between the candidates, the World image of America has suffered greatly from the pictures of Bush on the worldwide newspaper and TV outlets.

Questioned about the bank crisis his face shows a total lack of comprehension or answers as he stares blankly at the camera with all the charisma and leadership of a scared rabbit caught in a truck's headlights

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where the hellSep 27th, 2008 - 11:46:56

is sp4 when we need him or her or it or what ever ????

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hmmm.........Sep 27th, 2008 - 12:02:06

it doesn't really matter who wins the election, they are both the same arrogant and hypocrites about everything, only there to help the big money, a goverment for the rich and powerfull, not the everyday working family man drown in debts.
a goverment for the big corporations, hell bend on brainwashing and exploiding the people and waging violent imperialistic expeditions abroad to steal from the poor people of other countries, this iraq 'war' for example, was it a war? it looked more like a pirate landing of a band of criminals and murderers hell bend to steal and rape poor people, war is when you fight an equal in streangth foe! who has actually done wrong to you!
and the fact that they are still there,stealing oil and turning the place into complete chaos with millions of inoscent poor people as casualties, only proves that!
the same goes for the other so called 'war' in agfanistan.
lets call things by their name!

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BillSep 27th, 2008 - 12:02:43

SP4 is out checking his Nazi credentials -
Anti-colored,
Anti-Jew,
Setting up detention camps,
Marching into other countries
Belief in being part of a master race...



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